[ p.t. ] [[ is there any specification (or statement) about how the controls should be ordered when a user agent sends a submitted form? Shoul the sent control's (name=value) be arranged in the order they are received? Or in the tabbing order (if and when specified)? ]] Do not count on any particular order. Anyway, in Zope you get them as a dictionary, and that is not ordered. Cheers, Tom P