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From: Ng Pheng Siong <ngps@netmemetic.com> Subject: Re: [Zope] Joel On Software - Good strategic article To: Max M <maxm@mxm.dk> Cc: zope@zope.org Message-ID: <20040624151920.GA363@vista.netmemetic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

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http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html ... If you read between the lines it's also a pointer to why Z3 is an important step to get right.

Also, there is this book entitled, "In search of stupidity: 20 years of high-tech marketing disasters".

Rewrites themselves are not something that are absolute evil, but rather necessity in certain times and places. And I for one agree that there is and has been for long - a need for better version of Zope. Zope 2 has been great because of the ecosystem of products and tools that have helped a lot of people to get fast starts into developing applications before the Z-shaped learningcurve has punched in - and developer has had to cry for gods, gurus or both. For Zope to be a viable development tool and platform for web applications, transition to Zope 3 is a must - since the benefits of Zope 2 as a platform are running short while new tools and frameworks without the baggage of history get more and more developers to join in and commit to their mindsets. There are extremely smart people and good programmers working on Zope 3 to make it a better tool for developers. Every time I see presentation about the progress I get excited about the possibilities and wait for the possibility to run Plone in Zope 3 and develope applications with Zope 3 patterns, without Zope 2 cruft. But I am a practical developer and not looking forward spending my time with learning something that will not fly or will for ever be a minority player. I want to stand on the shoulders of giants and use robust components and frameworks made by people that are smarter than me. I have faith in the people putting their time on Zope 3, and I have faith on the possibility to make the transition to Z3 in a fashion that does not alienate those that matter: developers. http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/zope3_dilemma#comments -- -huima