For both Zope 2.7.0-rc1 and Zope 2.7.0-rc2, the installation of Localizer Version 1.1.0a2 renders Zope ZMI inoperable on Windows XP. This is not true with Zope 2.6.4-rc2. Localizer Version 1.1.0a2 loads fine. I went back Localizer 1.0.1 and installed this on Zope 2.7.0.rc2 without problems. on Windows XP. I have not tested this on Linux yet, but this will be my task tomorrow. Has anyone had similar problems on Windows XP, NT, 2000, or 2003. Thanks in advance. Patrick Gilmartin
In my research of online collaborative systems I frequently see references to MOO or MUD based systems. After some reading on the subject, it seems to me that the Zope OFS could be considered a MOO -- or at least very much like one. Can anybody comment on that? What (if anything) would a MOO server system be more adept than a Zope server at? And would it be logical to emulate MOO-based technologies using Zope OFS as the database? I've essentially already committed to using Zope at the core of my application, but I'm interested in this connection, and whether there are "pros and cons to each" or "they are essentially the same thing". This will also help me to write documentation for people coming from a MUD/MOO background. Cheers, Terry Acronyms: Zope OFS = Zope Object File System (what you see in the mgmt screens) MOO = "MUD, Object Oriented" MUD = "Multi-User Dungeon" (a collaborative environment that resembles text adventure games). -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com
Hi, Terry, please don't hit reply when you don't really intend to reply to the actual message; create a new message instead. Tobias Terry Hancock schrieb:
In my research of online collaborative systems I frequently see references to MOO or MUD based systems. After some reading on the subject, it seems to me that the Zope OFS could be considered a MOO -- or at least very much like one.
Can anybody comment on that?
What (if anything) would a MOO server system be more adept than a Zope server at? And would it be logical to emulate MOO-based technologies using Zope OFS as the database?
I've essentially already committed to using Zope at the core of my application, but I'm interested in this connection, and whether there are "pros and cons to each" or "they are essentially the same thing". This will also help me to write documentation for people coming from a MUD/MOO background.
Cheers, Terry
Acronyms:
Zope OFS = Zope Object File System (what you see in the mgmt screens) MOO = "MUD, Object Oriented" MUD = "Multi-User Dungeon" (a collaborative environment that resembles text adventure games).
-- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com
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From: "Terry Hancock" <hancock@anansispaceworks.com>
In my research of online collaborative systems I frequently see references to MOO or MUD based systems. After some reading on the subject, it seems to me that the Zope OFS could be considered a MOO -- or at least very much like one.
Can anybody comment on that?
Well, yes. I did write a MUD in LambdaMOO once, and there are many similarities, mostly the use of simple but extensive object oriented script languages and object stores.
What (if anything) would a MOO server system be more adept than a Zope server at?
Making text-based multi-user dungeouns. That is after wall, what they were made for. :-)
And would it be logical to emulate MOO-based technologies using Zope OFS as the database?
I don't think emulate is the right word. ZODB (which I assume you are referring to) is a generic object store. It would be perfectly possible to write a MUD in Python + ZODB. No problems at all. The rest of Zope may not be as useful for it. The permission system surely would be nice, though. A web-based MUD? Yup. Surely Zope would rule at that.
I've essentially already committed to using Zope at the core of my application
And you might get more helpful answers if you tell us what that application is. :-) //Lennart
Use PlacelessTranslationService. Localizer is obsolete. -ajm --On Freitag, 30. Januar 2004 18:37 Uhr -0800 Patrick Gilmartin <pgilmartin@ermventures.net> wrote:
For both Zope 2.7.0-rc1 and Zope 2.7.0-rc2, the installation of Localizer Version 1.1.0a2 renders Zope ZMI inoperable on Windows XP. This is not true with Zope 2.6.4-rc2. Localizer Version 1.1.0a2 loads fine.
I went back Localizer 1.0.1 and installed this on Zope 2.7.0.rc2 without problems. on Windows XP.
I have not tested this on Linux yet, but this will be my task tomorrow.
Has anyone had similar problems on Windows XP, NT, 2000, or 2003.
Thanks in advance.
Patrick Gilmartin
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