Re: [Zope] - Documentproperties - XML/RDF - Zope

8 Jan 1999

      Wiebe Kunst wrote:
...
Yes - thats exactly what I would like to achieve.
From: Jim Fulton <jim@digicool.com>
...
Let me try to express my understanding of your question by
restating your question a bit.
You want to maintain the properties defined in the Dublin Core
 for Documents.  That is, you want a Zope web interface for
 entering/editing these property values.
Further, you'd like to be able to generate RDF formatted text
 for these properties.
Am I on the right track?
First, the short answer is that supporting RDF
is clearly the right thing to do.  I'm not sure exactly 
when this will happen, although I can assure you that
progress will be evolutionary.

OK, then here are some initial observations/ramblings.

- There is an emerging notion of "content", as opposed
  to "method" objects.  Content objects are meant to contain
  information to be published.  Methods OTOH are intended
  to be used to publish content but are not content themselves.

  I expect that most "content" objects will allow
  more or less arbitrary properties.

- There should be a way to generate RDF text from content objects.
  In fact, there should probably be ways to generate RDF for any 
  object and for various collections of objects.

  I assume that there are one or more reasonable mappings from
  the Python and Zope Object models to the RDF object model.
  Such a comprehensive effort is beyond my current bandwidth. :)

- I propose to add a standard method for getting an RDF text from
  objects.  I'm open to name suggestions for this method.  

  For example, assume there is a method named ZRDF.  You could
  get a RDF text for an object, a/b/c with a URL like
  a/b/c/ZRFD.  

  You could also arrange to have the RDF embedded in rendered
  content. If a/b/c is a DTML Document (content) then
  you could have the head be something like:

    <head>
       ...
       <!--#var ZRDF-->
    </head>
    ...

- There needs to be a way to define schemas (namespaces) for properties.
  There are a couple of issues here:

   o We need to be able to define schemas for properties.

   o We have to be willing to allow multiple properties with the
     same name, but different schemas.  Alternatively, we need 
     to be able to define distinct schema sub-objects that act like
     property "sheets". Hm.  Maybe this is the right way to go.
     Maybe you can walk up to a content object and add a property
     sheet in which you specify a schema and the associated property
     values.  This new property sheet then becomes an additional
     object view (accessed via a tab).

     From Python, properties in property sheets would be accessed
     through the property sheets.  For example, suppose we had a document, 
     D.  Assume we've defined a property sheet, dc (for Dublin Core).
     To get the title defined by the dublin core, we'd use the
     expression: 

       D.dc.title

     Note that property sheets might acquire.  So, in the example above,
     if a value wasn't provided for title in dc, the standard Zope
     title would be acquired, perhaps after checking that the value was
     consistent with the dc schema.

     Maybe property sheets would have ZRDF methods to allow getting RDF
     for just one schema.

   o Maybe there should be a way to say that a single property
     value (e.g. title) should belong to multiple schemas/namespaces.

     This could be accomplished through acquisition, as described above.

- For content objects, it seems reasonable that some extra
  effort should be made to support a standard simple meta-data
  schema, such as the Dublin core.  I'm not sure how
  this should be accomplished in the user interface and I'm
  open to suggestions. For example:

    - Should there me a way of saying: "I want all of the
      Dublin Core Properties"?  

    - Is it enough to allow any properties to be defined and
      leave it up to the user to decide which properties
      should be defined?

    - To what degree should properties be tied to specific
      schemas?  How should users define or reference schemas?
      Should Zope have a tool that lets someone type in a URI
      for a schema and adds the associated properties to an
      object?  Should there be RDF Schema objects in Zope
      that should support managing proport schemas?

    - Should there be schema-dependent property views?
      (Probably yes.  See above.)

Hope these ramblings are helpful.  Comments are welcomed.      

Jim

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Re: [Zope] - Documentproperties - XML/RDF

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