Picasso, I hear you and I'm with you all the way on this one.

MyFoderA MyFolderB MyDTMLMethod <dtml-var "PARENTS[0]"> results: Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

Resource not found

Sorry, the requested Zope resource does not exist. Check the URL and try again. ****************************

I expected something like: <Folder instance at 01AE5340>. Maybe it's not a very useful Method, but I try to understand.

I would have expected the same.

Many times, writing very basic script I came across with this kind of problem.

I calculated that last week I wasted over 2 hours each and every day due to things not doing what I expected them to do - and worse still I can't understand exactly why the errors occur. 9 times out of 10 it's due to acquisition.

I dont understand and feel really stupid.

Not that it's any consolation but I think there are a boatload of us :)

I read comments about the learning curve. Some said that it's better to know python. I know python, I never feel stupid with python. I usually understand when I make a mistake.

Precisely - and that's so important.

A more complete reference documentation and step by step tutorial would be nice. As I understand it, DC primary targets are massive Web Sites. On the other side there are developpers that work on the source or can afford spending a lot of time reading it.

Maybe there are also programmers or small and middle sized businesses that would like to use Zope to build their Web application but need a good documentation.

Actually, I would say that Zope (and hence DC) targets websites of all sizes. I've seen only small-to-medium public sites being built with Zope so far.

I am one them, and surely I would pay for a good documentation. Has DC or anyone else, planned to ship this kind of service: A CLEAR DOCUMENTATION.

Well, I think they all realise this and people are working on it. One thing I would add though : in pure Python, the tracebacks are very good and, as you mentioned, it's easy to see where you went wrong. This is most important : making mistakes is good if you learn from them ! But most the time with problems like you describe, I find that I just keep messing around with stuff like DTML-WITH and PARENTS until it works, and it's mainly by fluke. Hence the repeated waste of time. Hang in there dude - there are other Python guys who are struggling with this too. I know, that's not a consolation when your code is blowing up and you don't know why, but things'll get better (I hope). chas