I've lost my Zope zen, why doesn't this work? My folders and documents / (folder) strader (folder) FormatDate (external method) outbound (folder) PackagInfo (dtml document) FormatColumnTable (dtml method) PackageInfo has code like this: <dtml-with "GetDB().Package.TrackingNumber_index.select(trackingnumber).fetchone()"> <dtml-var FormatDate> <table width="100%" border="0"> <dtml-var "FormatColumnTable(columnlist=packagecolumns,obj=GetSelf(),notable=1)"> </dtml-with> FormatColumnTable has code like this: <dtml-let value="something "> <dtml-var "FormatDate(date=value)"> </dtml-let> However this FormatDate raises a NameError in DT_Util.py, line 335 (version 2.1.6 of Zope) Is PackageInfo's use of dtml-with blocking acquisition of FormatDate? The object returned for use with dtml-with in PackageInfo raises an AttributeError when trying to find FormatDate as an attribute, this is correct... what gives? Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax netmeeting: ils://ils.murkworks.com AOL-IM: BKClements