I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported knowledge.zexp from the 2.5.1 and imported into the 2.7.6. Now, when I go to pull up the page that points to info related to this data, the subtopics are now listed below the contents of the original page. In looking at the html (I am no HTML expert at ALL), it did not appear that there was even anything related to subtopics. It must be a control from within the Zope management interface. I guess I just want to know how to migrate properly with little administrative effort. Thanks, Tim
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported
i would suggest setting up the new zope 2.7.6 instance, copy all products used, and Data.fs to var start zope, see if it complains. if not, you're good. else, check the traceback, do something, and start zope again. repeat. hth
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Are any of your applications relying on the 'bobobase_modification_time' attribute? That's something that changes when you import a .zexp file which could maybe explain why things appear differently now. On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported knowledge.zexp from the 2.5.1 and imported into the 2.7.6. Now, when I go to pull up the page that points to info related to this data, the subtopics are now listed below the contents of the original page. In looking at the html (I am no HTML expert at ALL), it did not appear that there was even anything related to subtopics. It must be a control from within the Zope management interface.
I guess I just want to know how to migrate properly with little administrative effort.
Thanks, Tim
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Excuse the newbie question, but how would I find that out? I inherited this 'project' of upgrading Zope and migrating the data. I have had NO help with it so I have been banging through it all the way. Thanks, Tim On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:22 +0100, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Are any of your applications relying on the 'bobobase_modification_time' attribute? That's something that changes when you import a .zexp file which could maybe explain why things appear differently now.
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported knowledge.zexp from the 2.5.1 and imported into the 2.7.6. Now, when I go to pull up the page that points to info related to this data, the subtopics are now listed below the contents of the original page. In looking at the html (I am no HTML expert at ALL), it did not appear that there was even anything related to subtopics. It must be a control from within the Zope management interface.
I guess I just want to know how to migrate properly with little administrative effort.
Thanks, Tim
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Try something like this: $ cd zopehome/Products/ $ grep -rn bobobase_modification_time . That will tell you if any of your diskbased python products rely on bobobase_modification_time On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
Excuse the newbie question, but how would I find that out?
I inherited this 'project' of upgrading Zope and migrating the data. I have had NO help with it so I have been banging through it all the way.
Thanks, Tim On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:22 +0100, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Are any of your applications relying on the 'bobobase_modification_time' attribute? That's something that changes when you import a .zexp file which could maybe explain why things appear differently now.
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported knowledge.zexp from the 2.5.1 and imported into the 2.7.6. Now, when I go to pull up the page that points to info related to this data, the subtopics are now listed below the contents of the original page. In looking at the html (I am no HTML expert at ALL), it did not appear that there was even anything related to subtopics. It must be a control from within the Zope management interface.
I guess I just want to know how to migrate properly with little administrative effort.
Thanks, Tim
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FWIW, here's the output of the old 2.5.1 install: sprite:/var/lib/zope# grep -rn bobobase_modification_time . Binary file ./var/Data.fs matches grep: ./var/Z2-pcgi.soc: No such device or address ./var/Z2.log:59809:127.0.0.1- - [11/Jun/2002:21:04:53 -0500] "GET /Knowledge/search/Indexes/bobobase_modification_time/manage_workspace" 200 2489 ./var/Z2.log:59822:127.0.0.1- - [11/Jun/2002:21:05:24 -0500] "GET /Knowledge/search/Indexes/bobobase_modification_time/manage_workspace" 200 3126 ./var/Z2.log:60034:127.0.0.1 - - [11/Jun/2002:21:22:20 -0500] "GET /Knowledge/Catalog/Indexes/bobobase_modification_time/manage_workspace" 200 3130 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Knowledge/Catalog/Indexes/manage_main" "Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.3 (X11; Linux i686; U;) Gecko/20020531 Debian/1.2.3-6" ./var/Z2.log:60035:127.0.0.1 - - [11/Jun/2002:21:22:20 -0500] "GET /manage_page_style.css" 200 2923 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Knowledge/Catalog/Indexes/bobobase_modificati..." "Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.3 (X11; Linux i686; U;) Gecko/20020531 Debian/1.2.3-6" ./var/Z2.log:76775:127.0.0.1 - - [28/Jun/2002:15:34:45 -0500] "GET /manage_page_style.css" 200 2923 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Helpdesk/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.5 (X11; Linux i686; U;) Gecko/20020610 Debian/1.2.5-1" ./var/Z2.log:76785:127.0.0.1 - - [28/Jun/2002:15:36:14 -0500] "POST /Helpdesk/" 200 70659 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Helpdesk/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.5 (X11; Linux i686; U;) Gecko/20020610 Debian/1.2.5-1" ./var/Z2.log:76951:127.0.0.1 - - [28/Jun/2002:15:44:12 -0500] "GET /manage_page_style.css" 200 2923 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Knowledge/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.5 (X11; Linux i686; U;) Gecko/20020610 Debian/1.2.5-1" ./var/Z2.log:76952:127.0.0.1 - - [28/Jun/2002:15:44:30 -0500] "POST /Knowledge/" 200 230769 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Knowledge/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/5.0 Galeon/1.2.5 (X11; Linux i686; U;) Gecko/20020610 Debian/1.2.5-1" ./var/Z2.log:170191:127.0.0.1 - - [21/Feb/2003:19:33:04 -0500] "GET /manage_page_style.css" 200 2923 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Argyle/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)" ./var/Z2.log:170192:127.0.0.1 - - [21/Feb/2003:19:33:04 -0500] "GET /misc_/OFSP/dtmlmethod.gif" 200 1045 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Argyle/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)" ./var/Z2.log:170193:127.0.0.1 - - [21/Feb/2003:19:33:04 -0500] "GET /misc_/OFSP/Image_icon.gif" 200 1079 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Argyle/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)" ./var/Z2.log:170194:127.0.0.1 - - [21/Feb/2003:19:33:04 -0500] "GET /misc_/ZWiki/ZWikiPage_icon.gif" 200 376 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Argyle/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)" ./var/Z2.log:170195:127.0.0.1 - - [21/Feb/2003:19:33:15 -0500] "POST /Argyle/" 200 27964 "http://knowledge.cait.org/Zope/Argyle/manage_main? skey=bobobase_modification_time&rkey=bobobase_modification_time" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)" So that tells me that there are many dependent on bobobase_modification_time. What does that mean and what do I need to do about it? Thanks much for your assistance; Tim On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 17:33 +0100, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Try something like this: $ cd zopehome/Products/ $ grep -rn bobobase_modification_time .
That will tell you if any of your diskbased python products rely on bobobase_modification_time
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
Excuse the newbie question, but how would I find that out?
I inherited this 'project' of upgrading Zope and migrating the data. I have had NO help with it so I have been banging through it all the way.
Thanks, Tim On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:22 +0100, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Are any of your applications relying on the 'bobobase_modification_time' attribute? That's something that changes when you import a .zexp file which could maybe explain why things appear differently now.
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported knowledge.zexp from the 2.5.1 and imported into the 2.7.6. Now, when I go to pull up the page that points to info related to this data, the subtopics are now listed below the contents of the original page. In looking at the html (I am no HTML expert at ALL), it did not appear that there was even anything related to subtopics. It must be a control from within the Zope management interface.
I guess I just want to know how to migrate properly with little administrative effort.
Thanks, Tim
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On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
FWIW, here's the output of the old 2.5.1 install:
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So that tells me that there are many dependent on bobobase_modification_time. What does that mean and what do I need to do about it?
It is completely wrong to rely on bobobase_modification_time because that value changes when the object storage changes. It's much better to use something like 'last_modified_date' that you control yourself in your own code. What happens when you import any object is that bobobase_modification_time gets set to today() which might make all your objects appear to be unordered because every time you refresh (now on you zope276) they seem to jump around from place to place. Solution is nasty but straight forward at least. On your (zope 2.5.1), this product that you have instanciated as Knowledge, Argyle and Helpdesk, do you have control over it's source code? Assuming it's a python product it might look something like this:: class MyProduct(Folder): meta_type = 'My Product' def __init__(self, id, title): self.id = id self.title = title def getModTime(self): return self.bobobase_modifiation_time() Now, what you need to do is to"copy" the bobobase_modification_time to a new attribute. class MyProduct(Folder): meta_type = 'My Product' def __init__(self, id, title): self.id = id self.title = title self.last_modified_date = DateTime() def getModTime(self): return self.last_modified_date def upgrade(self): self.last_modified_date = self.bobobase_modification_time() And somewhere else you need to have a serious python script that loops through all instances and runs upgrade() on each. Something like this: for instance in context.objectValues('My Product'): instance.upgrade() Good luck
Thanks much for your assistance;
Tim
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 17:33 +0100, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Try something like this: $ cd zopehome/Products/ $ grep -rn bobobase_modification_time .
That will tell you if any of your diskbased python products rely on bobobase_modification_time
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
Excuse the newbie question, but how would I find that out?
I inherited this 'project' of upgrading Zope and migrating the data. I have had NO help with it so I have been banging through it all the way.
Thanks, Tim On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:22 +0100, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Are any of your applications relying on the 'bobobase_modification_time' attribute? That's something that changes when you import a .zexp file which could maybe explain why things appear differently now.
On 6/22/05, Tim Suter <tsuter@cait.org> wrote:
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope 2.5.1 would be ok. However, when I import it into the new install, it isn't the same as the original. For example, I exported knowledge.zexp from the 2.5.1 and imported into the 2.7.6. Now, when I go to pull up the page that points to info related to this data, the subtopics are now listed below the contents of the original page. In looking at the html (I am no HTML expert at ALL), it did not appear that there was even anything related to subtopics. It must be a control from within the Zope management interface.
I guess I just want to know how to migrate properly with little administrative effort.
Thanks, Tim
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Tim, "subtopics appearing from nowhere" could be due to a Zwiki upgrade. If you are indeed looking at a wiki page, the Zwiki release notes and admin guide will explain. Add a false boolean 'show_subtopics' property to the folder to make them go away.
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