Web publishing using Zope and GNU TeXmacs
Hi, We would like to have tools for publishing on the Web, using Zope and GNU TeXmacs (see http://www.texmacs.org). The main idea is very simple: 1. Have one or more web sites running under Zope where documents will be published. 2. Make it possible to load/save TeXmacs documents directly from/to such a web site. In addition, we would like to have tools for being able to decorate pages, annotate pages, referee pages, catalogue pages, search the site, rate pages, costumized navigation, history management, display news on (certain topics of) the site, automatically create online journals, and much more. We are searching for volunteers who know Zope well to help us with this project. The idea would be that one group of people writes the necessary tools on the server side (which might also be useful in combination with other frontends than TeXmacs) and that we take care of the application side. We might start as follows: 1. Someone sets up and maintains an experimental server somewhere on the web (later this might be done on texmacs.org). 2. We agree on a good protocol for saving & loading documents. One might for instance use the post method of a form in order to save (a region of) a document. 3. We are working on Html/Xml converters and web support inside TeXmacs; it would be nice to automatically generate Html translations (for instance) of TeXmacs documents (there might be some information loss here, like the disappearing of mathemematical formulas). Then we might provide an Html version of a page when browsing the site using a conventional navigator and the TeXmacs version when browsing using TeXmacs. 4. Create the necessary administration tools for managing permissions, passwords, etc. This should be easy in Zope, but we might need some conventions on how to do this in combination with TeXmacs. 5. Find a way to automatically decorate the TeXmacs documents, downloaded from the Web, like providing a dynamic header and a footer. These decorations might be in Html (modulo a better Html->TeXmacs converter). As a first goal, these tools may be used to create a collaborative website for the documentation of TeXmacs itself. This might be a good test for a very basic implementation. Next, the implementation might evolve towards a more complete publishing system. So: are there any volunteers ? Maybe it is possible to adapt some existing work on this? Thanks, Joris ----------------------------------------------------------- Joris van der Hoeven <vdhoeven@texmacs.org> http://www.texmacs.org: GNU TeXmacs scientific text editor http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~vdhoeven: personal homepage -----------------------------------------------------------
Sounds like an interesting project. Joris van der Hoeven says:
(for instance) of TeXmacs documents (there might be some information loss here, like the disappearing of mathemematical formulas).
I believe there are a few packages that do LaTeX conversion to HTML and maintain the formulas as images. I don't see why you couldn't do the same thing here.
Then we might provide an Html version of a page when browsing the site using a conventional navigator and the TeXmacs version when browsing using TeXmacs.
Does Zope have the ability to do server-side object substitution without a roundtrip redirect? - Adam ----- Surgam, Inc. is a technology consulting firm with strong background in delivering scalable and robust enterprise web and IT applications. http://www.surgam.net
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Adam Fields wrote:
Sounds like an interesting project.
Joris van der Hoeven says:
(for instance) of TeXmacs documents (there might be some information loss here, like the disappearing of mathemematical formulas).
I believe there are a few packages that do LaTeX conversion to HTML and maintain the formulas as images. I don't see why you couldn't do the same thing here.
TeXmacs is *not* a TeX/LaTeX dialect (see http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html) ; the TeXmacs document format is currently somewhere between LaTeX and XML ; it is rather moving in the direction of XML (precisely in order to make web publishing easier, as well as to provide a "new generation" type of XML editor). -Joris- ----------------------------------------------------------- Joris van der Hoeven <vdhoeven@texmacs.org> http://www.texmacs.org: GNU TeXmacs scientific text editor http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~vdhoeven: personal homepage -----------------------------------------------------------
Joris van der Hoeven says:
I believe there are a few packages that do LaTeX conversion to HTML and maintain the formulas as images. I don't see why you couldn't do the same thing here.
TeXmacs is *not* a TeX/LaTeX dialect (see http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html ) ; the TeXmacs document format is currently somewhere between LaTeX and XML ;
I know. But that doesn't mean you can't take a similar approach.
it is rather moving in the direction of XML (precisely in order to make web publishing easier, as well as to provide a "new generation" type of XML editor).
In that case, formula conversion to SVG images might be the right way to go.
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Adam Fields wrote:
Joris van der Hoeven says:
I believe there are a few packages that do LaTeX conversion to HTML and maintain the formulas as images. I don't see why you couldn't do the same thing here.
TeXmacs is *not* a TeX/LaTeX dialect (see http://www.texmacs.org/Web/FAQ.html ) ; the TeXmacs document format is currently somewhere between LaTeX and XML ;
I know. But that doesn't mean you can't take a similar approach.
The best thing would be to write an appropriate filter though, also because TeXmacs, unlike LaTeX, supports things like hyperlinks. Furthermore, writing such a converter should not be too difficult (the other way around is usually more complicated, especially in the case of (La)TeX). In order to get an idea: I just rewrote a better TeXmacs -> LaTeX converter in approximately a week; but LaTeX is more complicated than Html...
it is rather moving in the direction of XML (precisely in order to make web publishing easier, as well as to provide a "new generation" type of XML editor).
In that case, formula conversion to SVG images might be the right way to go.
Or postscript or pdf... -Joris- ----------------------------------------------------------- Joris van der Hoeven <vdhoeven@texmacs.org> http://www.texmacs.org: GNU TeXmacs scientific text editor http://www.math.u-psud.fr/~vdhoeven: personal homepage -----------------------------------------------------------
Adam Fields writes:
Does Zope have the ability to do server-side object substitution without a roundtrip redirect? Not sure, what you mean....
But "emulateRedirect" from <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope> may do what you want. Dieter
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