XSL for Zope - a bounty on this?
A number of people have expressed a desire to have XSL support in Zope. The projects I am working on also seem to be needing the application of XSL, and whilst we can (and will) use some external XSL processor, it would seem that a 'cleaner' solution would be to have XSL support directly in Zope. I originally came to want to use Zope because I needed a tool that allowed the manipulation of a persistant tree of objects; my prototype was done in XML, but it needed persistance, an interface, and a programming language, hence the use of Zope. Even having only XPath support would be an extremely usefull way for packaging up simple 'queries' on the Zope database. Ive been looking around at the Python XSL implementations and the FourThought 4suite is looking pretty damned good, especially considering their goal of eventual ODMG 2.0 support. Zope desparately needs some standards compliance, even if only for the buzzwords. The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope? Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else? I guess Id also like to heard what DC has to say about this; whether they are willing to have an external group contribute/merge a key technology into their codebase, and if they have any preferences about who this group might be. --------------------------------------------------------------- Heres what Uche Ogbuji of FourThought has to say about Zope http://www.pythonjournal.com/volume1/issue2/col-intranetpython/ The Zope Dope Digital Creations, fresh from a capital infusion, has given Pythoneers their first complete native Web application platform in Zope. the "Z Object Publishing Environment". Zope is similar in scope to Cold Fusion or SilverStream, but open-source and python-powered. Zope accumulates many bits and pieces of a successful Intranet site. It incorporates a database management system with object extensions (which, unfortunately, doesn't yet support the Object Database Management Group's specifications) as well as facilities for developing template Web sites, an application framework, a CGI mechanism for handling HTTP requests for objects, an HTTP and FTP server, and a comprehensive application framework to tie it all together. Z Templates are developed using a proprietary XML-based language, the Document Template Markup Language (DTML). ZTML does make some departures from the XML community in such areas as style-sheets, but it is hoped that Digital Creations or other contributors to Zope will work to close that gap. Zope is a synthesis of Digital Creations' many earlier products, such as Bobo, Principia and PCGI. Bobo has been especially popular among Python/Web programmers, and Zope looks poised to retain the tradition. If Zope can move a bit closer towards object database and XML-processing standards, it is likely to be quite popular outside the Python community as well.
Damian Morton <morton@dennisinter.com> wrote
The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope? Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else?
I am willing to put up $$$ for this also assuming it is to go Open Source. Nitin Borwankar, nitin@borwankar.com
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Heres what Uche Ogbuji of FourThought has to say about Zope http://www.pythonjournal.com/volume1/issue2/col-intranetpython/
The Zope Dope Digital Creations, fresh from a capital infusion, has given Pythoneers their first complete native Web application platform in Zope. the "Z Object Publishing Environment". Zope is similar in scope to Cold Fusion or SilverStream, but open-source and python-powered.
Zope accumulates many bits and pieces of a successful Intranet site. It incorporates a database management system with object extensions (which, unfortunately, doesn't yet support the Object Database Management Group's specifications) as well as facilities for developing template Web sites, an application framework, a CGI mechanism for handling HTTP requests for objects, an HTTP and FTP server, and a comprehensive application framework to tie it all together. Z Templates are developed using a proprietary XML-based language, the Document Template Markup Language (DTML). ZTML does make some departures from the XML community in such areas as style-sheets, but it is hoped that Digital Creations or other contributors to Zope will work to close that gap.
Zope is a synthesis of Digital Creations' many earlier products, such as Bobo, Principia and PCGI. Bobo has been especially popular among Python/Web programmers, and Zope looks poised to retain the tradition. If Zope can move a bit closer towards object database and XML-processing standards, it is likely to be quite popular outside the Python community as well.
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The bounty I have in mind is for an Open Source XSL in Zope.
-----Original Message----- From: Nitin Borwankar [mailto:nitin@borwankar.com]
Damian Morton <morton@dennisinter.com> wrote
The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope? Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else?
I am willing to put up $$$ for this also assuming it is to go Open Source.
Nitin Borwankar, nitin@borwankar.com
---------------------------------------------------------------
Heres what Uche Ogbuji of FourThought has to say about Zope http://www.pythonjournal.com/volume1/issue2/col-intranetpython/
The Zope Dope Digital Creations, fresh from a capital infusion, has given
Pythoneers their
first complete native Web application platform in Zope. the "Z Object Publishing Environment". Zope is similar in scope to Cold Fusion or SilverStream, but open-source and python-powered.
Zope accumulates many bits and pieces of a successful Intranet site. It incorporates a database management system with object extensions (which, unfortunately, doesn't yet support the Object Database Management Group's specifications) as well as facilities for developing template Web sites, an application framework, a CGI mechanism for handling HTTP requests for objects, an HTTP and FTP server, and a comprehensive application framework to tie it all together. Z Templates are developed using a proprietary XML-based language, the Document Template Markup Language (DTML). ZTML does make some departures from the XML community in such areas as style-sheets, but it is hoped that Digital Creations or other contributors to Zope will work to close that gap.
Zope is a synthesis of Digital Creations' many earlier products, such as Bobo, Principia and PCGI. Bobo has been especially popular among Python/Web programmers, and Zope looks poised to retain the tradition. If Zope can move a bit closer towards object database and XML-processing standards, it is likely to be quite popular outside the Python community as well.
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I'm all for this. And here comes the but. But, 4Suite is not suitable (i.e. doesn't compile) for Win32 at the moment (that's from the horses mouth, well Uche at least). There was talk of win32 binaries but they seem to never have materialised. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Morton" <morton@dennisinter.com> To: <zope-dev@zope.org>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: 10 March 2000 17:20 Subject: [Zope-dev] XSL for Zope - a bounty on this?
A number of people have expressed a desire to have XSL support in Zope. The projects I am working on also seem to be needing the application of XSL, and whilst we can (and will) use some external XSL processor, it would seem that a 'cleaner' solution would be to have XSL support directly in Zope.
I originally came to want to use Zope because I needed a tool that allowed the manipulation of a persistant tree of objects; my prototype was done in XML, but it needed persistance, an interface, and a programming language, hence the use of Zope. Even having only XPath support would be an extremely usefull way for packaging up simple 'queries' on the Zope database.
Ive been looking around at the Python XSL implementations and the FourThought 4suite is looking pretty damned good, especially considering their goal of eventual ODMG 2.0 support. Zope desparately needs some standards compliance, even if only for the buzzwords.
The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope?
Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else?
I guess Id also like to heard what DC has to say about this; whether they are willing to have an external group contribute/merge a key technology into their codebase, and if they have any preferences about who this group might be.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Heres what Uche Ogbuji of FourThought has to say about Zope http://www.pythonjournal.com/volume1/issue2/col-intranetpython/
The Zope Dope Digital Creations, fresh from a capital infusion, has given Pythoneers their first complete native Web application platform in Zope. the "Z Object Publishing Environment". Zope is similar in scope to Cold Fusion or SilverStream, but open-source and python-powered.
Zope accumulates many bits and pieces of a successful Intranet site. It incorporates a database management system with object extensions (which, unfortunately, doesn't yet support the Object Database Management Group's specifications) as well as facilities for developing template Web sites, an application framework, a CGI mechanism for handling HTTP requests for objects, an HTTP and FTP server, and a comprehensive application framework to tie it all together. Z Templates are developed using a proprietary XML-based language, the Document Template Markup Language (DTML). ZTML does make some departures from the XML community in such areas as style-sheets, but it is hoped that Digital Creations or other contributors to Zope will work to close that gap.
Zope is a synthesis of Digital Creations' many earlier products, such as Bobo, Principia and PCGI. Bobo has been especially popular among Python/Web programmers, and Zope looks poised to retain the tradition. If Zope can move a bit closer towards object database and XML-processing standards, it is likely to be quite popular outside the Python community as well.
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I sopke to Uche today, and supposedly there are people who have had it compile under win32. Im tracking them down at the moment. 4Suite may not be suitable at the moment, but not because there arent win32 binaries.
-----Original Message----- From: Phil Harris [mailto:phil.harris@zope.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 4:34 PM To: Damian Morton; zope-dev@zope.org; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] XSL for Zope - a bounty on this?
I'm all for this.
And here comes the but.
But, 4Suite is not suitable (i.e. doesn't compile) for Win32 at the moment (that's from the horses mouth, well Uche at least).
There was talk of win32 binaries but they seem to never have materialised.
Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian Morton" <morton@dennisinter.com> To: <zope-dev@zope.org>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: 10 March 2000 17:20 Subject: [Zope-dev] XSL for Zope - a bounty on this?
A number of people have expressed a desire to have XSL support in Zope. The projects I am working on also seem to be needing the application of XSL, and whilst we can (and will) use some external XSL processor, it would seem that a 'cleaner' solution would be to have XSL support directly in Zope.
I originally came to want to use Zope because I needed a tool that allowed the manipulation of a persistant tree of objects; my prototype was done in XML, but it needed persistance, an interface, and a programming language, hence the use of Zope. Even having only XPath support would be an extremely usefull way for packaging up simple 'queries' on the Zope database.
Ive been looking around at the Python XSL implementations and the FourThought 4suite is looking pretty damned good, especially considering their goal of eventual ODMG 2.0 support. Zope desparately needs some standards compliance, even if only for the buzzwords.
The question on my mind is: how much do other people want XSL in Zope?
Im willing and able to put some $$$ up for a bounty on this. Is anyone else?
I guess Id also like to heard what DC has to say about this; whether they are willing to have an external group contribute/merge a key technology into their codebase, and if they have any preferences about who this group might be.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Heres what Uche Ogbuji of FourThought has to say about Zope http://www.pythonjournal.com/volume1/issue2/col-intranetpython/
The Zope Dope Digital Creations, fresh from a capital infusion, has given Pythoneers their first complete native Web application platform in Zope. the "Z Object Publishing Environment". Zope is similar in scope to Cold Fusion or SilverStream, but open-source and python-powered.
Zope accumulates many bits and pieces of a successful Intranet site. It incorporates a database management system with object extensions (which, unfortunately, doesn't yet support the Object Database Management Group's specifications) as well as facilities for developing template Web sites, an application framework, a CGI mechanism for handling HTTP requests for objects, an HTTP and FTP server, and a comprehensive application framework to tie it all together. Z Templates are developed using a proprietary XML-based language, the Document Template Markup Language (DTML). ZTML does make some departures from the XML community in such areas as style-sheets, but it is hoped that Digital Creations or other contributors to Zope will work to close that gap.
Zope is a synthesis of Digital Creations' many earlier products, such as Bobo, Principia and PCGI. Bobo has been especially popular among Python/Web programmers, and Zope looks poised to retain the tradition. If Zope can move a bit closer towards object database and XML-processing standards, it is likely to be quite popular outside the Python community as well.
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