Well I have Plone installed now, but don't have a clue about how it all hangs together. It seems pretty overpowering. Where do I start trying to understand what is going on? -- John
http://plone.org/documentation/book On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 15:55, John Poltorak wrote:
Well I have Plone installed now, but don't have a clue about how it all hangs together. It seems pretty overpowering.
Where do I start trying to understand what is going on?
At 03:55 PM 2/10/2004, John Poltorak wrote:
Well I have Plone installed now, but don't have a clue about how it all hangs together. It seems pretty overpowering.
Where do I start trying to understand what is going on?
Play, John. At least "play" is what I consider it, because it is that fun to learn. Build a site using Plone that starts to include some of the functionality that you require. Read through each of the howtos on the Plone site and try to use 5 or 10 of them, to see what they do for you -- doing so will give you ideas about what is possible in the world of Plone. Twiddle with various options to see what they do, and whether you like the result. There will still be occasional moments of bewilderment, but try try try new things, and read read reread every piece of documentation you can find, both formal and in the list archives. This is how the rest of the Zope/Plone community learns. Read first, try four times, ask the list last when you are more sure of what the scope of your problem is, and what it is NOT. As an extra note, reconsider the earlier advice Tim offered you regarding the use of Plone2, Zope 2.7, CMF1.4.2, and Python 2.3. This is NOT the so-called "bleeding edge". There is stability in these products, and especially by the time (weeks) you have developed the Plone site you want, these will be the production-ready, stable products to use. Virtually ALL of the products that you will want to add to your Plone site (like CMFBoard and others) are either ready for Plone 2 now or are being readied for Plone 2. You will want to be in Plone 2 as soon as you get comfortable with Plone 1. It's that good. =Paul
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 04:58:02PM -0500, Paul Howell wrote:
At 03:55 PM 2/10/2004, John Poltorak wrote:
Well I have Plone installed now, but don't have a clue about how it all hangs together. It seems pretty overpowering.
Where do I start trying to understand what is going on?
Play, John. At least "play" is what I consider it, because it is that fun to learn.
Yes, it's fun to learn, but it's no fun when things don't work. I can't even get the hang of changing the skin of a basic site to see what difference it makes... I've changed the the Skin selection under portal_skins->Properties to Mozilla New, saved it, but don't see any difference. The Plone book makes it sound so simple, and it probably is when it works. It says:-
If users are allowed to change their skins, they can go to the my preferences screen and change it there. <<
But what have I done at this particular point? The default skin is supposed to be set but I don't see any difference. When does the page get updated?
Build a site using Plone that starts to include some of the functionality that you require. Read through each of the howtos on the Plone site and try to use 5 or 10 of them, to see what they do for you -- doing so will give you ideas about what is possible in the world of Plone. Twiddle with various options to see what they do, and whether you like the result.
I'd prefer a few less options to begi with ;-)....
There will still be occasional moments of bewilderment, but try try try new things, and read read reread every piece of documentation you can find, both formal and in the list archives. This is how the rest of the Zope/Plone community learns. Read first, try four times, ask the list last when you are more sure of what the scope of your problem is, and what it is NOT.
=Paul
-- John
I suggest taking this to the Plone maillist, as this is no longer a general Zope issue. On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 17:51, John Poltorak wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 04:58:02PM -0500, Paul Howell wrote:
At 03:55 PM 2/10/2004, John Poltorak wrote:
Well I have Plone installed now, but don't have a clue about how it all hangs together. It seems pretty overpowering.
Where do I start trying to understand what is going on?
Play, John. At least "play" is what I consider it, because it is that fun to learn.
Yes, it's fun to learn, but it's no fun when things don't work.
I can't even get the hang of changing the skin of a basic site to see what difference it makes...
I've changed the the Skin selection under portal_skins->Properties to Mozilla New, saved it, but don't see any difference. The Plone book makes it sound so simple, and it probably is when it works. It says:-
If users are allowed to change their skins, they can go to the my preferences screen and change it there. <<
But what have I done at this particular point? The default skin is supposed to be set but I don't see any difference. When does the page get updated?
Build a site using Plone that starts to include some of the functionality that you require. Read through each of the howtos on the Plone site and try to use 5 or 10 of them, to see what they do for you -- doing so will give you ideas about what is possible in the world of Plone. Twiddle with various options to see what they do, and whether you like the result.
I'd prefer a few less options to begi with ;-)....
There will still be occasional moments of bewilderment, but try try try new things, and read read reread every piece of documentation you can find, both formal and in the list archives. This is how the rest of the Zope/Plone community learns. Read first, try four times, ask the list last when you are more sure of what the scope of your problem is, and what it is NOT.
=Paul
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 06:28:43PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
I suggest taking this to the Plone maillist, as this is no longer a general Zope issue.
How busy is it? I tried subscribing this morning and again in the afternoon and still haven't had a confirmation. Maybe it's awaiting moderator approval... -- John
I've gotten messages up to 4:43pm (it's now 5:16pm) on the plone-users list, so I don't think it's down. I also don't think it's moderator-approved. Is the plone-users list the list you subscribed to? On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 16:10, John Poltorak wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 06:28:43PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
I suggest taking this to the Plone maillist, as this is no longer a general Zope issue.
How busy is it?
I tried subscribing this morning and again in the afternoon and still haven't had a confirmation.
Maybe it's awaiting moderator approval...
On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 05:17:37PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
I've gotten messages up to 4:43pm (it's now 5:16pm) on the plone-users list, so I don't think it's down. I also don't think it's moderator-approved. Is the plone-users list the list you subscribed to?
Yes, I've had two requests for confirmation from:- plone-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net which I have replied to immediately but no 'welcome' msg has arrived and no msgs either, so it looks like I'm not getting subscribed for some reason. -- John
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 16:10, John Poltorak wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 06:28:43PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
I suggest taking this to the Plone maillist, as this is no longer a general Zope issue.
How busy is it?
I tried subscribing this morning and again in the afternoon and still haven't had a confirmation.
Maybe it's awaiting moderator approval...
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