Anyone have any idea why the archive indexes are essentially useless? I tried searching for "acl_users" from the link available at http://www.zope.org/Resources/MailingLists and it returned all 76,000+ messages in the archive. Someone suggested I try the archive at ActiveState.... it returned ZERO hits for "acl_users" and "nt service" (what I was looking for in a previous thread) (no, I didn't include the quotes in my search term) -- James Garrison Athens Group, Inc. mailto:jhg@athensgroup.com 5608 Parkcrest Dr http://www.athensgroup.com Austin, TX 78731 PGP: RSA=0x04B73B7F DH/DSS=0x70738D88 (512) 345-0600 x150