Re: [Zope] [FEATURE REQUEST] Improving Zope's management interface
Jerome Alet writes:
here are some small suggestions to improve (IMHO) the management interface.
When viewing an object it would be fine if the Rename/Cut/Copy and Delete buttons were still available (but probably not the Paste button). I would not mind, but would use them rarely.
Another thing I'd be glad to use would be MoveUp and MoveTo buttons: Never wanted to have that:
I open two browser windows, showing source and destination. I select and copy/cut in the source, move to destination and click "paste". For me, at least, it would be much more helpful, if the controlling buttons would be both at top and bottom. Dieter
Dieter Maurer wrote:
For me, at least, it would be much more helpful, if the controlling buttons would be both at top and bottom.
That's one that I'll 'second'. -- Tim Cook, President - FreePM,Inc. http://www.FreePM.com Office: (731) 884-4126 ONLINE DEMO: http://www.freepm.org:8080/FreePM
I've made very minor changes to my interface dtmls in order to reduce clicks when using Zope, all of them easy to implement. They are: - Full screen dtml editing window (with IE for PC), - Printer version dtml window, - "view" opening a new window - Pull-down menus to browse other editable objects while at the edit or properties window (without the need to click back to the main directory window every time) - Images rendered at the very directory list, when wanted. - Images rendered at the edit and properties pages, all the time. - Thiner directory row lines, smaller font sizes of the rows content and form objects, and of course, control buttons also on top. These are easy things to do, and they do help to reduce unnecessary clicks, right clicks and scrolling. Hope that some of them were considered for the next version of Zope. Ausum Tim Cook wrote:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
For me, at least, it would be much more helpful, if the controlling buttons would be both at top and bottom.
That's one that I'll 'second'.
-- Tim Cook, President - FreePM,Inc. http://www.FreePM.com Office: (731) 884-4126 ONLINE DEMO: http://www.freepm.org:8080/FreePM
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Maybe you can post them somewhere?
From: Ausum <augusto@artlover.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:02:22 -0500 To: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] [FEATURE REQUEST] Improving Zope's management interface
I've made very minor changes to my interface dtmls in order to reduce clicks when using Zope, all of them easy to implement. They are:
- Full screen dtml editing window (with IE for PC), - Printer version dtml window, - "view" opening a new window - Pull-down menus to browse other editable objects while at the edit or properties window (without the need to click back to the main directory window every time) - Images rendered at the very directory list, when wanted. - Images rendered at the edit and properties pages, all the time. - Thiner directory row lines, smaller font sizes of the rows content and form objects, and of course, control buttons also on top.
These are easy things to do, and they do help to reduce unnecessary clicks, right clicks and scrolling. Hope that some of them were considered for the next version of Zope.
Ausum
Tim Cook wrote:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
For me, at least, it would be much more helpful, if the controlling buttons would be both at top and bottom.
That's one that I'll 'second'.
-- Tim Cook, President - FreePM,Inc. http://www.FreePM.com Office: (731) 884-4126 ONLINE DEMO: http://www.freepm.org:8080/FreePM
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I've uploaded pic snapshots hoping to explain them. They're based only in modifications to distribution dtml files, and one python module file. If you want the code I can send it to you, but you'll probably want to take a look first. :) http://www.zope.org/Members/ausum/some_improvements/ Ausum marc lindahl wrote:
Maybe you can post them somewhere?
From: Ausum <augusto@artlover.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:02:22 -0500 To: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] [FEATURE REQUEST] Improving Zope's management interface
I've made very minor changes to my interface dtmls in order to reduce clicks when using Zope, all of them easy to implement. They are:
- Full screen dtml editing window (with IE for PC), - Printer version dtml window, - "view" opening a new window - Pull-down menus to browse other editable objects while at the edit or properties window (without the need to click back to the main directory window every time) - Images rendered at the very directory list, when wanted. - Images rendered at the edit and properties pages, all the time. - Thiner directory row lines, smaller font sizes of the rows content and form objects, and of course, control buttons also on top.
These are easy things to do, and they do help to reduce unnecessary clicks, right clicks and scrolling. Hope that some of them were considered for the next version of Zope.
Ausum
Tim Cook wrote:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
For me, at least, it would be much more helpful, if the controlling buttons would be both at top and bottom.
That's one that I'll 'second'.
-- Tim Cook, President - FreePM,Inc. http://www.FreePM.com Office: (731) 884-4126 ONLINE DEMO: http://www.freepm.org:8080/FreePM
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On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:12:00PM -0500, Ausum wrote:
I've uploaded pic snapshots hoping to explain them. They're based only in modifications to distribution dtml files, and one python module file. If you want the code I can send it to you, but you'll probably want to take a look first. :)
Except the Vi/Ew thing the rest is VERY interesting ! Please DC make this happen in Zope's core... bye, Jerome Alet
On 03 May 2001 20:25:48 +0200, Jerome Alet wrote:
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:12:00PM -0500, Ausum wrote:
I've uploaded pic snapshots hoping to explain them. They're based only in modifications to distribution dtml files, and one python module file. If you want the code I can send it to you, but you'll probably want to take a look first. :)
Except the Vi/Ew thing the rest is VERY interesting !
And, of course, except for the InternetExlorer only cruft. Also, splitting up parts of a single word to do different things is bad UI. It is not intuitive that a single word such as Edit does two different things depending on where you click. Bill
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Jerome Alet writes:
Another thing I'd be glad to use would be MoveUp and MoveTo buttons: Never wanted to have that:
I open two browser windows, showing source and destination. I select and copy/cut in the source, move to destination and click "paste".
Your solution is still very "clicky": you must first open a new window and click and click and click until you've reached the destination folder, which may eventually be far far away from the current one, before clicking again on Paste. A MoveTo dialog box (or form) would be better and quicker IMHO. bye, Jerome Alet
A killer add-in to Zope would be a cascade pull-down navigator like the one at MSNBC News. I think it's possible with javascript but I haven't found one that cascades more than one level of content. (I've counted at least three at MSNBC News Menu) With a tool like this and Zope internal logic, you would be able to save tons of clicks. If you're in a hurry (sometimes to save a couple of clicks in a object-crowded environment can become one, I know that) you may modify the OFS/dtml/main.dtml file to perform the function you're looking for. Ausum Jerome Alet wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2001, Dieter Maurer wrote:
Jerome Alet writes:
Another thing I'd be glad to use would be MoveUp and MoveTo buttons: Never wanted to have that:
I open two browser windows, showing source and destination. I select and copy/cut in the source, move to destination and click "paste".
Your solution is still very "clicky": you must first open a new window and click and click and click until you've reached the destination folder, which may eventually be far far away from the current one, before clicking again on Paste.
A MoveTo dialog box (or form) would be better and quicker IMHO.
bye,
Jerome Alet
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Ausum -
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Tim Cook