Hi, I have had this problem before, when I try to pack the database I get an I/O Error, which I found to be as a result of a cap put by my isp on the amount of resources I can use. Which is a problem;^( I have tried using the unlimit command, but to no avail, is there a way to pack the database from the command prompt? Thanks Norman zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zz/********/z/****\zzz|****\*\zz|*******|z z/^^^^^^^^/z/******\zz|*^^^^|*|z|*|^^^^^|z norman khine zzzzzz/**/z|**/^^\**|z|*|zzz|*|z|*|zzzzzzz mailto:norman@khine.net zzzzz/**/zz|*|zzzz|*|z|****/*/zz|*****|zzz purley z/******/zz|*|zzzz|*|z|*|^^zzzzz|*|^^^|zzz UK zzZ/**/zzzz|**\^^/**|z|*|zzzzzzz|*|zzzzzzz zz/******/zz\******/zz|*|zzzzzzz|*|*****|z z/^^^^^^/zzzz\^^^^/zzz|^|zzzzzzz|^^^^^^^|z zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz