danda@netscape.com writes:
I'm evaluating application servers for a small project I'm contemplating that will require persistent storage of user data (text + images), and of course, dynamic personalized pages. I would like to store/retrieve all non-binary data (user and other) as XML if possible.
Zope can do that, it can also speak XML-RPC thanks to Eric Kidd.
Can anyone point me towards a document that compares Zope and Enhydra? For kicks, I would also be interested in comparisons with NAS, JSP, ASP, etc. I'm mainly interested in ease-of-development, user management, xml support, and scalability/performance.
I don't know of any such document. At this point in the game, it's all just wild speculation, and no one is going to compare an open source product with a commercial one, the recent Linux/Microsoft debacle proves that a moot point; at some point the marketing people step in and it's a war of words, and truly, words have no power. Comparing two open source applications is fairly reasonable (like Enhydra) but I don't think anyone has made such a comparison, and I doubt we'll see a fair one any time soon that would sway any professional, that's one of the things about open source, if you believe the marketing hype, you might as well let youself be suckered into buying the commercial products anyway. They'll apreciate your money and actually save you the time of learning the differences yourself. I don't mean this to sound to sharp edged, but that is what I beleive about open source software, if you *know* it's better, because you've learned and seen with your own eyes, marketing hype soon becomes background noise, and you can truly see what an application really is. -Michel
michel@digicool.com wrote:
danda@netscape.com writes:
I'm evaluating application servers for a small project I'm contemplating that will require persistent storage of user data (text + images), and of course, dynamic personalized pages. I would like to store/retrieve all non-binary data (user and other) as XML if possible.
Zope can do that, it can also speak XML-RPC thanks to Eric Kidd.
Hmm... what amount of support does it have for XML besides XML-RPC? Is there pre-built Zope functionality for dealing with XML, or is it more like, plug in your favorite XML parser and roll your own? For example, Enhydra supplies XMLC, which is a HTML/XML to Java compiler.
Can anyone point me towards a document that compares Zope and Enhydra? For kicks, I would also be interested in comparisons with NAS, JSP, ASP, etc. I'm mainly interested in ease-of-development, user management, xml support, and scalability/performance.
I don't know of any such document. At this point in the game, it's all just wild speculation, and no one is going to compare an open source product with a commercial one, the recent Linux/Microsoft debacle proves that a moot point; at some point the marketing people step in and it's a war of words, and truly, words have no power.
Well, I was hoping that, even lacking an official writeup, some people here would have used the two products and be able to provide a high-level comparison for a relative newbie. I agree with you that there is no substitute for hands-on experience, which is why I'm playing with them both myself. However, I also value the opinions of others who have been there, done that. -dan
Comparing two open source applications is fairly reasonable (like Enhydra) but I don't think anyone has made such a comparison, and I doubt we'll see a fair one any time soon that would sway any professional, that's one of the things about open source, if you believe the marketing hype, you might as well let youself be suckered into buying the commercial products anyway. They'll apreciate your money and actually save you the time of learning the differences yourself.
I don't mean this to sound to sharp edged, but that is what I beleive about open source software, if you *know* it's better, because you've learned and seen with your own eyes, marketing hype soon becomes background noise, and you can truly see what an application really is.
-Michel
Dan Libby wrote:
Hmm... what amount of support does it have for XML besides XML-RPC? Is there pre-built Zope functionality for dealing with XML, or is it more like, plug in your favorite XML parser and roll your own? For example, Enhydra supplies XMLC, which is a HTML/XML to Java compiler.
Python supposedly has great XML support, so you could use that as a basis for whatever you want to do in Zope. -- Itamar - itamars@ibm.net ----------------------------o----------------------------------------------o Sealingwax Greeting Cards | Trust? Ha! The US dollar is backed by ICBMs! | http://www.sealingwax.com | --Anonymous Coward, Slashdot |
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