I always thought Zope-Dev was for "real developers." I would certainly welcome a Zope for dummies list. One for non techicies trying to figure it out and implement it. Virgil I feel the division is something like: zope-dev: for discussions that require deeper Zen zope: for discussions that are more accessible http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

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