Thanks to the wonders of modern technology, and a kick in the kiester, the training materials that we've run a few times have been HTMLified and put up on the Digicool site. You can find them here: http://www.digicool.com/Solutions/Training/Material/ Good luck, and please direct feedback to myself rather than the list. Chris -- | Christopher Petrilli Python Powered Digital Creations, Inc. | petrilli@digicool.com http://www.digicool.com