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the aim to point to existing stuff. Restructuring the existing docs is not our job.

Maybe it should be? How about rebuilding zope.org as a generic 'Zope Portal' with the building and documenting work being done more by the community? (ie: integrating ZDP and Zope.org)

You got it. I think that the ZD portal and Zope.org should be seamlessly integrated. More to the point, I have the authority to make it happen on DC's end. I am *very* interested in integrating the community's effort more completely into Zope.org.

Good. We (=zdp list) pleaded various times for an integration of ZDP and Zope documentation.

Furthermore, this *is* a major part of what I need to do with Zope.org. It is, indeed, part of my Job Description:

4. Use direct assistance, tight documentation integration, collaborative tools and appropriate koans to provide a path to Zope Zen: a gentle learning curve that takes participants from novice DTML work to hacking zope internals

So I *do* have time to help with this, and I don't imagine my employer will give me flack :)

I will admit that I am not exactly up to speed on who's doing what with ZDP,

Neither are we, and moreover everything there is in a flux. We called it comfortable anarchy when ZDP just started, and so it's stayed ever since.

nor am I trying to impose a vision.

So what do you folks think?

1) I have pleaded before for ownership of several documentation efforts. We now have something called maintainers on the ZDP site (Maik overall maintenance, ZBook Tom Deprez I suppose, Kamon Ayeva - hm, something else, and me ZSnippets). Perhaps ownership is taking it to far, but a bit of coordination left and right and (taking initiatives for) setting priorities would do much good. So far, no one is inclined to take responsability for more than a part, though. 2) The ZDP Tools of Maik Roeder and the Subject/Topic hierarchy stuff by David Kankiewitz (if I spell his name right) are great stuff with a lot of potential, even if they may not appear consistently on the ZDP site right now (to say the least). There is some documentation available about them somewhere, but Maik may be able to answer questions better. my 2 cents Rik