How about removing broken things like Confera and ZDiscussions?
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work. Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works! I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging through the python code before you yell at me... -- cary
Cary O'Brien wrote:
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
perhaps you want to check out ZUBB... kapil
Kapil Thangavelu wrote:
Cary O'Brien wrote:
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
perhaps you want to check out ZUBB...
Or Squishdot ;-) Who's maintaining ZUBB nowadays? cheers, Chris
Yes, Squishdot is a very good option as well. ZUBB, it would seem, it being maintained by little ole me. Maybe I should write a little "Differences between ZUBB and Squishdot" so people can figure out where to use one or the other. J
From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com> Organization: New Information Paradigms Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:29:31 +0100 To: Kapil Thangavelu <kthangavelu@earthlink.net> Cc: "Cary O'Brien" <cobrien@Radix.Net>, zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Discussions
Kapil Thangavelu wrote:
Cary O'Brien wrote:
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
perhaps you want to check out ZUBB...
Or Squishdot ;-)
Who's maintaining ZUBB nowadays?
cheers,
Chris
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No problem... I have to go look at Squishdot again though. Forgetting some of the features. J
From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com> Organization: New Information Paradigms Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:05:55 +0100 To: "J. Atwood" <jatwood@bwanazulia.com> Cc: Kapil Thangavelu <kthangavelu@earthlink.net>, Cary O'Brien <cobrien@Radix.Net>, zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Discussions
"J. Atwood" wrote:
Maybe I should write a little "Differences between ZUBB and Squishdot" so people can figure out where to use one or the other.
I'd love to read it :-)
Chris
Cary, I've written some code that requires ZSQL Methods that I've been heavily considering porting over to a Product sometime in the near future. It has been more of a "is there enough demand for a forum product" than anything really. Take a look at http://www.phunc.com/Forums and tell me if it looks any bit appealing to you. If I see enough demand, I'll productize it, otherwise, tough luck ;] Knight knight@phunc.com On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Cary O'Brien wrote:
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging through the python code before you yell at me...
-- cary
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There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB. http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived. J
From: "Cary O'Brien" <cobrien@Radix.Net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:36:13 -0400 (EDT) To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and ZDiscussions?
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging through the python code before you yell at me...
-- cary
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There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB. http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived. J Might be better to have a more formal declaration of the dependencies on versions of products relied upon at the download pages -- for some products this has become a tricky and madning process to make sure all the versions are correct for a product to run. This is natural in the progress of Zope and Zope products and will become even more and issue as Zope matures even further. This can be formalized. I do like the way SGI does some of this. Just my cents (sense). Regards, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@vpatch.com
There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB
But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived.
J
Might be better to have a more formal declaration of the dependencies on versions of products relied upon at the download pages -- for some products this has become a tricky and madning process to make sure all the versions are correct for a product to run. This is natural in the progress of Zope and Zope products and will become even more and issue as Zope matures even further. This can be formalized. I do like the way SGI does some of this.
Bangs head. Doh! Why the heck don't products have explicit requirements the "package require n.m" in TCL. Heck, python ought to. Import Fred(1.2) from Bedrock Or something like that. -- cary
How about a tested with version x field on Products? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cary O'Brien" <cobrien@Radix.Net> To: <zope@zope.org> Cc: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and ZDiscussions?
There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB
But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version
of
ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived.
J
Might be better to have a more formal declaration of the dependencies on versions of products relied upon at the download pages -- for some products this has become a tricky and madning process to make sure all the versions are correct for a product to run. This is natural in the progress of Zope and Zope products and will become even more and issue as Zope matures even further. This can be formalized. I do like the way SGI does some of this.
Bangs head. Doh!
Why the heck don't products have explicit requirements the "package require n.m" in TCL. Heck, python ought to.
Import Fred(1.2) from Bedrock
Or something like that.
-- cary
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There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.
But it doesn't do attachments. I really need attachments. I'm trying to fix Attachments in ZDConfera, but the FileObject class doesn't seem to exist any more. Arrg. -- cary
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB
But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived.
J
From: "Cary O'Brien" <cobrien@Radix.Net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:36:13 -0400 (EDT) To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and ZDiscussions?
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging through the python code before you yell at me...
-- cary
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So... add attachments. Not really a big deal. No one product is going to do it all out of the box. That is why it is Open Source.. you open it and provide your own source of code. :) J
From: "Cary O'Brien" <cobrien@Radix.Net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:41:59 -0400 (EDT) To: jatwood@bwanazulia.com (J. Atwood) Cc: cobrien@radix.net, zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and ZDiscussions?
There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.
But it doesn't do attachments. I really need attachments. I'm trying to fix Attachments in ZDConfera, but the FileObject class doesn't seem to exist any more.
Arrg.
-- cary
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB
But, I agree, old product that have been left behind (the old version of ZDiscussions/Confera) should be marked and or archived.
J
From: "Cary O'Brien" <cobrien@Radix.Net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:36:13 -0400 (EDT) To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] How about removing broken things like Confera and ZDiscussions?
Why are things like ZDiscussions and Confera even on the zope download pages? They don't work! It would be better if they were moved to a section called "Things that worked once but aren't being maintained so they don't work any more". Otherwise people starting out might see all these seemingly useful things and get frustrated when they dont work.
Arrrggg. I just want a bulletin board that works!
I know what you are going to say, so I'll start digging through the python code before you yell at me...
-- cary
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Cary O'Brien wrote:
There is a ZDiscussions that works. It is called ZUBB.
But it doesn't do attachments. I really need attachments. I'm trying to fix Attachments in ZDConfera, but the FileObject class doesn't seem to exist any more.
Squishdot does attachments ;-) Chris PS: It was originally based on ZDConfera, btu has grown a bit since then ;-)
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