hi *, i read with much interest this thread about ZBabel, because it seems to do something like the Translator product.

Suppose web site in source language has something like this:

'Click <A href="{fieldX(someVar.A)}">here</A>, for {fieldY(someVar.B)}'

With suitably horrific DTML instead of ' ' and {}.

Rendered english result would be, for some particular dynamic instance of someVar:

'Click <A href="http://www.zope.org/">here</A> for Zope'

Translator for language X decides to reverse the positions of fieldA and fieldB and use 3 separate substrings, because it is too abrupt for that language, so translates to something like:

'If you would like {fieldY(someVar.B)}, click <A href="{fieldX(someVar.A)}">this link</A>, please'

There are now 3 substrings in the translation because it would be rude not to start or end with something like "please" in language X, and it reads better with the fields reversed in that language.

Final rendered result becomes (in language X):

'If you would like Zope, click <A href="http://www.zope.org/">this link</A>, please'

depending on the particular value of someVar at the time.

ok. Translator allows for that using just one (1) translated string. you create a translator and put inside it a translated item (naming it my_localized_text, for example): language1: Click <A href="<dtml-var "someVar.A">">here</A>, for <dtml-var "someVar.B"> language2: If you would like <dtml-var "someVar.B">, click <A href="<dtml-var "someVar.A">">this link</A>, please. Then in the main body of your page you put: <dtml-lvar my_localized_text> and you get exactly what you want. BTW, Translator also allow you to take an url of a localized object, to do stuff like: <img src="<dtml-lvar first_logo_png url>" usemap=...> At now, the Transaltor does not support at now an easy way to generate catalogues (as ZBabel does, i think.) I'll add that in a future release. Or, if the author of ZBabel wants, we can try to merge the two projects to and produce a single, usefull product. ciao, federico -- Federico Di Gregorio MIXAD LIVE System Programmer fog@mixadlive.com Debian GNU/Linux Developer & Italian Press Contact fog@debian.org 99.99999999999999999999% still isn't 100% but sometimes suffice. -- Me