Jonothan wrote:

I have to agree with Don, here. The criteria that 'technical' discussions should go to zope-dev is a bit to vague to be meaningful. Even the distinction between Zope 'users' and 'developers' is a difficult one, as every Zope user is a 'developer' in some sense, even if they're writing only the most trivial DTML method.

These points, and the others, are certainly valid. I agree that the terms are vague, but I don't think anything will be absolutely clear cut. I'm just trying to follow the community's mandate to structure the deluge. [snip]

What do you think about Don's suggestion to break out the zope list into several clearly defined sub-topics (DTML, ZClasses, databases) instead of trying to distinguish between 'technical' vs. 'non-technical' questions? Unfortunately, I can see this being as difficult to judge. ("Is this a DTML question or a ZSQL question?") I'm mainly just interested in generating some discussion about possible solutions.

This is hard, as the territory was obviously covered before, the community spoke, and we implemented the *loud* call to do something about traffic. Before revisiting the territory, perhaps people that made the original call can pipe in and say what they think. If they're still subscribed to the deluge. :^) Seriously, it isn't too joyous for us to create new mailing lists, find some way to migrate people, do the archives, link them on the website, and handle the subsequent confusion -- especially if it will lead us to the same position. Before wiping the slate clean, let's at least keep in mind how the community came to the current conclusion. --Paul