Hi Darren, The list is archived at more places, for example at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ (well, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=zope&r=1&w=2 to be exact :-) They have a bunch of archives of other lists, like Linux, PHP, Apache, KDE, SQL, PHP... You can even search in all, or in a section of some lists, which is very useful if you want info about, say, Zope vs. Midgard, as you will get results from both Zope as Midgard lists. (By the way, Google.com does a surprisingly well, too, returning many relevant mailing list posts) - Willem __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com