Hello, I get a little response when the debian zope start script runs, but it has no detail... root@toolbench:/var/log# /etc/init.d/zope start Starting Zope instance default... Waiting instances in late: default(0), done. root@toolbench:/var/log# /etc/init.d/zope force-reload Stopping Zope instance default... Waiting instances in late: default(0), done. Starting Zope instance default... Waiting instances in late: default(0), done. my /etc/zope/zopectlrc file : ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} --pid ${zope_pidfile}" ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} -u zope" ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} -l ${zope_logfile}" ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} -z ${ZOPE_HOME}" #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Other options #----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} -w 8080" ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} -f 8021" This was originally ZOPEOPTS="${ZOPEOPTS} -w 9673, and i changed to 8080, but no response at that port with a browser (yes apache runs fine at port 80...) What can I do to get more debug info? -- John Griessen Cibolo Design Austin Texas EE good at IR systems, power supplies, logic design, A2D D2A, digital amps, mechatronics, SiGe and CMOS layout, MEMS/mech/electronic/photonic modeling, charge pump PV/battery/fuel cell power converters, more...