I submitted the ZOE announcement to /. and Devshed (www.devshed.com). I got back something from /. asking for more information and DevShed posted it under news. Hopefully it will be up on /. today. Hope the Zope.org servers are ready. :) There is also a Zope Discussion Board at DevShed (based on UBB) which is pretty quiet now. It might be a place to get people learning about Zope who are not going to be a part of mailing lists. J