debugging and browsers
I need to open two instances of a browser, one as one window as a user in the system with one login and set of session variables, and the other as another user (usually a manager) to manipulate the system through the ZMI. Likewise, sometime is is useful to open two instances of the system so that you can look in one place with one window, and in another place in the other. Most current browsers believe they are the only show in town run multiple instances as separate threads (or so it appear) happily sharing data. This causes problems when, as we do, naviagation information is saved in session variables. The precise behavior depends upon the browser. I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
--On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2004 23:26 Uhr -0800 Dennis Allison <allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU> wrote:
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
Run two different browsers at the same time: Mozilla and Firefox for example. -aj
The obvious answer, but it does not sit well with the Windows hosted developers who want to drop IE in favor of FireFox. On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2004 23:26 Uhr -0800 Dennis Allison <allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU> wrote:
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
Run two different browsers at the same time: Mozilla and Firefox for example.
-aj
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:43:42PM -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
The obvious answer, but it does not sit well with the Windows hosted developers who want to drop IE in favor of FireFox.
Or, Opera + Firefox. That's what I use. Someone else mentioned using -P flag in Mozilla to specify different user profiles. Opera has a -personaldir flag for this. Would that solve your problem?
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2004 23:26 Uhr -0800 Dennis Allison <allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU> wrote:
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
Run two different browsers at the same time: Mozilla and Firefox for example.
-aj
-- Dave Kuhlman http://www.rexx.com/~dkuhlman
Mozilla profiles can be used too... invoke Mozilla with the -P flag and it will allow you to create and use a new profile, the window(s) for which are divorced from any other running browser instance. On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 23:26 -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
I need to open two instances of a browser, one as one window as a user in the system with one login and set of session variables, and the other as another user (usually a manager) to manipulate the system through the ZMI. Likewise, sometime is is useful to open two instances of the system so that you can look in one place with one window, and in another place in the other.
Most current browsers believe they are the only show in town run multiple instances as separate threads (or so it appear) happily sharing data. This causes problems when, as we do, naviagation information is saved in session variables. The precise behavior depends upon the browser.
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
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Hmmmm... one of my users reported that Firefox did not separate instances properly. I wonder if she invoked it right. I'll check. Thanks. On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Chris McDonough wrote:
Mozilla profiles can be used too... invoke Mozilla with the -P flag and it will allow you to create and use a new profile, the window(s) for which are divorced from any other running browser instance.
On Sun, 2004-12-19 at 23:26 -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
I need to open two instances of a browser, one as one window as a user in the system with one login and set of session variables, and the other as another user (usually a manager) to manipulate the system through the ZMI. Likewise, sometime is is useful to open two instances of the system so that you can look in one place with one window, and in another place in the other.
Most current browsers believe they are the only show in town run multiple instances as separate threads (or so it appear) happily sharing data. This causes problems when, as we do, naviagation information is saved in session variables. The precise behavior depends upon the browser.
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
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Dennis Allison wrote:
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
We connect to the server on 'normal' mode through apache, using it's domain name, and we connect to the ZMI using it's IP:portnumber. Two different addresses = two different registrations. HTH -- David
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 11:10:03AM +0100, David Convent wrote:
We connect to the server on 'normal' mode through apache, using it's domain name, and we connect to the ZMI using it's IP:portnumber.
I do that too except that I tunnel though ssh to the ZMI (direct to zope) port. It works very well, particularly when the server allows access only through the ssh and http ports. -- Fred Yankowski fred@ontosys.com tel: +1.630.879.1312 OntoSys, Inc PGP keyID: 7B449345 fax: +1.630.879.1370 www.ontosys.com 38W242 Deerpath Rd, Batavia, IL 60510-9461, USA
Dennis Allison wrote:
I need to open two instances of a browser, one as one window as a user in the system with one login and set of session variables, and the other as another user (usually a manager) to manipulate the system through the ZMI. Likewise, sometime is is useful to open two instances of the system so that you can look in one place with one window, and in another place in the other.
Most current browsers believe they are the only show in town run multiple instances as separate threads (or so it appear) happily sharing data. This causes problems when, as we do, naviagation information is saved in session variables. The precise behavior depends upon the browser.
I guess I am looking for a way to enable the desired behavior by hacking Zope since it's unlikely that I can change the way browsers with an installed base behave. Anyone else encountered this issue or solved the problem.
Have you tried to edit your hosts file, so that you can fake different servers? http://test1/ http://test2/ ... Tonico
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