Hi Thanx for your response david ... .though i was excpecting better responce from other zopists in this mail list , but i suppose they are happy with there dreamweaver/emacs/ or plain zope ... anyway i keep up with my work ... well u mentioned it would b easy to make wyswyg in windows platform easier; i seriously dont belive itthough there are many resons. I still adhere to making it platform independent ... well if u wanna play with some codes www.manning.com/grayson -- it has the source codes of the "Python and Tkinter " book . see the GUI building on cross platforms ... itz really astonishing .. As of now , i have Tkinter in my pocket , which comes with every python installation ... so no problem making a GUI . I want to concetrate more on interation of Zope and ur IDE ... My main hurdle is lack on Documentation on zope ( DC are u listening? ) .. most of the stuffs has to b read and understood from the source itself .... yesterday - whole day i was wondering which is a way to taking the object values to make a tree widget .. 1.via zope itself calling manage_menu which inturn calls Treetag.py ( inside <zope>\lib\python\TreeDisplay ) .. thats how zope draws ur tree in manage panel... reasons why i discard it is that it gives me the HTML tags ( most of which are only understood by zope itself like icons ) i dont want HTML i want something like a list/tuple of object , its url , itz icon . 2. so i jumped to XMLRPCserver ...well though itz a think client .. im still stuck how to get authenticated in XMLRPC ( im sure there is a way to get it .. but dunno how ) ... authentication is requred to access http://zope:8080/manage_menu 3.FTP / WebDav : On Guesses for this , though i hope to get a ans soon on this .. in the mean time .. i need some smart answers ;) -Raj --- David Burton <eloquence@eloquent-designs.f2s.com> wrote: > Depending on your wishes or requirements to make
this platform agnostic, it may potentially prove easiest to write something WYSIWYG as a Windows-only
system in VB or Delphi, using M$'s DHTMLEdit control to handle generation of XHTML for pages. That would make the WYSIWYG very much like FrontPage...
It sounds like this would be substantially different from your current plan, but it would take care of most of the WYSIWYG elements, but you could use the Windows Scripting Host to embed Python code within the program, to leverage your Python knowledge.
That's the way I'd consider doing things if WYSIWYG is important over platform-agnosticism. If you are interested in exploring doing an IDE in this manner, let me know as I'd be interested in helping develop such a system (so long as the licence is suitably LGPL-like to allow commercial distribution).
Yours, David Burton
15/05/2002 13:59:13, Raj NS <rnshas@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Hello
I'm trying to write a COMPLETE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT for zope . I'll soon be out with a
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Hmmm... couldn't resist ;-) Raj NS wrote:
dreamweaver/emacs/ or plain zope ... anyway i keep up with my work ...
Well, good luck, I know of about 3-5 projects that have attempted this to date, all with varying degrees of success, none that have become a de facto standard, what does that tell you?
see the GUI building on cross platforms ... itz really astonishing ..
Not really. Tk blows. Looks at wxWindows, it has problems but fewer than Tkinter and looks a lot nicer to boot.
with every python installation ... so no problem making a GUI .
I look forward to seeing this amazing GUI, when is delivery expected?
My main hurdle is lack on Documentation on zope ( DC are u listening? )
They changed their name to Zope Corp about a year ago. Your failure to notice that probably explains why you're missing the copious amounts of documentation now available.
.. most of the stuffs has to b read and understood from the source itself ....
The stuff you ae eattempting will require that since it's not something that's commonly done with Zope, for good reason some might add ;-)
whole day i was wondering which is a way to taking the object values to make a tree widget ..
If you're still struggling with things like that, you really shouldn't be attempting what you're trying. Oh, and do yourself a favour and learn ZPT rather than torturing yourself with dtml-tree...
are only understood by zope itself like icons ) i dont want HTML i want something like a list/tuple of object , its url , itz icon .
So write some python which generates one!
2. so i jumped to XMLRPCserver ...well though itz a think client .. im still stuck how to get authenticated in XMLRPC ( im sure there is a way to get it .. but dunno how ) ... authentication is requred to access http://zope:8080/manage_menu
...you use the xmlrpc lib with authentication built in as opposed to the one without Authentication ;-) ZSyncher includes this... anyway, work to do... Chris - hit me with a cluestick, somebody, please?
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 11:54:17AM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: | Oh, and do yourself a favour and learn ZPT rather than torturing | yourself with dtml-tree... I noticed this comment as I glanced over this discussion. In a web app I'm building I want to use a tree widget. I found dtml-tree (but haven't really worked with it yet). How can ZPT (which I use for the rest of the HTML templating) provide a tree widget? I want the easiest route :-). -D PS. As far as an IDE goes -- give me UNIX (vim, grep, find, cvs, etc) any day, and a good, reliable, way to update the filesystem-based development into the zope environment. (I'm still working on that last requirement. FTP is doing the job now, but is not terribly convenient and is not automated.) PPS. Chris is right, Tk is ugly. Use wxWindows or GTK+. -- The light of the righteous shines brightly, but the lamp of the wicked is snuffed out. Proverbs 13:9 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg
On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 02:36:22PM -0500, dman wrote:
PS. As far as an IDE goes -- give me UNIX (vim, grep, find, cvs, etc) any day, and a good, reliable, way to update the filesystem-based development into the zope environment. (I'm still working on that last requirement. FTP is doing the job now, but is not terribly convenient and is not automated.)
For working directly with the management interface, I just tried ExternalEditor yesterday and it works great! I can finally use my favorite editors (gimp, emacs) with zero fuss. Brilliant. -- Paul Winkler home: http://www.slinkp.com "Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
I noticed this comment as I glanced over this discussion. In a web app I'm building I want to use a tree widget. I found dtml-tree (but haven't really worked with it yet). How can ZPT (which I use for the rest of the HTML templating) provide a tree widget? I want the easiest route :-).
I've never done this. http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1014345937
haven't really worked with it yet). How can ZPT (which I use for the rest of the HTML templating) provide a tree widget?
Install Zope 2.5.0+ and go have a look in the Examples folder ;-)
PS. As far as an IDE goes -- give me UNIX (vim, grep, find, cvs, etc) any day, and a good, reliable, way to update the filesystem-based development into the zope environment.
Have you tried davfs? I use webdrive, the windows equivalent, and it gives exactly the characteristics you're looking for... cheers, Chris
On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 09:05:04AM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: | > PS. As far as an IDE goes -- give me UNIX (vim, grep, find, cvs, etc) | > any day, and a good, reliable, way to update the filesystem-based | > development into the zope environment. | | Have you tried davfs? I use webdrive, the windows equivalent, and it gives | exactly the characteristics you're looking for... I just tried it. It works rather well, for some stuff. It doesn't work at all for ZSQL Methods (they don't allow reading or writing through WebDAV). I think I'll start adding CVS folders to parts of my zope site soon :-). -D -- Yes, Java is so bulletproofed that to a C programmer it feels like being in a straightjacket, but it's a really comfy and warm straightjacket, and the world would be a safer place if everyone was straightjacketed most of the time. -- Mark 'Kamikaze' Hughes GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg
On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 04:54, Chris Withers wrote:
Chris - hit me with a cluestick, somebody, please?
*WHAM* ... *WHAM* ... ?!? Not working? maybe if I swing this way ... *WHAM*! Oh, whoops, sorry, Chris, wrong stick ... ;^) -- Bill Anderson Linux in Boise Club http://www.libc.org Amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the Titanic. Amateurs build Linux, professionals build Windows(tm).
Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com> writes:
Chris - hit me with a cluestick, somebody, please?
Ah, you need the Clue Delivery System: ... a small device that plugs into the back of a standard PC keyboard and delivers a mild electric shock whenever the luser does something stupid. The device is triggered by a Windows program that detects when the luser attempts to open an unsolicited email attachment or perform another equally dangerous virus-friendly action. "What's great about the Clue Delivery System is that the device is completely hidden within the keyboard and cannot be easily disabled," boasted the President of Salivating Dogs, Inc. "While electric shock therapy might not be the most efficient nor the most ethical method to deliver clues to lusers, we feel that desperate times call for desperate measures. Just about every system administrator in the industry is going to want a whole stack of these things." http://i-want-a-website.com/about-linux/articles/may02/virus-solution.shtml --- Alastair
Hi Raj, Use the attached module under xmlrpclib as a "transport" for XML-RPC basic auth. HTH, - C On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 05:37, Raj NS wrote:
Hi
Thanx for your response david ... .though i was excpecting better responce from other zopists in this mail list , but i suppose they are happy with there dreamweaver/emacs/ or plain zope ... anyway i keep up with my work ...
well u mentioned it would b easy to make wyswyg in windows platform easier; i seriously dont belive itthough there are many resons. I still adhere to making it platform independent ... well if u wanna play with some codes www.manning.com/grayson -- it has the source codes of the "Python and Tkinter " book . see the GUI building on cross platforms ... itz really astonishing ..
As of now , i have Tkinter in my pocket , which comes with every python installation ... so no problem making a GUI . I want to concetrate more on interation of Zope and ur IDE ...
My main hurdle is lack on Documentation on zope ( DC are u listening? ) .. most of the stuffs has to b read and understood from the source itself .... yesterday - whole day i was wondering which is a way to taking the object values to make a tree widget ..
1.via zope itself calling manage_menu which inturn calls Treetag.py ( inside <zope>\lib\python\TreeDisplay ) .. thats how zope draws ur tree in manage panel... reasons why i discard it is that it gives me the HTML tags ( most of which are only understood by zope itself like icons ) i dont want HTML i want something like a list/tuple of object , its url , itz icon .
2. so i jumped to XMLRPCserver ...well though itz a think client .. im still stuck how to get authenticated in XMLRPC ( im sure there is a way to get it .. but dunno how ) ... authentication is requred to access http://zope:8080/manage_menu
3.FTP / WebDav : On Guesses for this , though
i hope to get a ans soon on this .. in the mean time .. i need some smart answers ;)
-Raj
--- David Burton <eloquence@eloquent-designs.f2s.com> wrote: > Depending on your wishes or requirements to make
this platform agnostic, it may potentially prove easiest to write something WYSIWYG as a Windows-only
system in VB or Delphi, using M$'s DHTMLEdit control to handle generation of XHTML for pages. That would make the WYSIWYG very much like FrontPage...
It sounds like this would be substantially different from your current plan, but it would take care of most of the WYSIWYG elements, but you could use the Windows Scripting Host to embed Python code within the program, to leverage your Python knowledge.
That's the way I'd consider doing things if WYSIWYG is important over platform-agnosticism. If you are interested in exploring doing an IDE in this manner, let me know as I'd be interested in helping develop such a system (so long as the licence is suitably LGPL-like to allow commercial distribution).
Yours, David Burton
15/05/2002 13:59:13, Raj NS <rnshas@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Hello
I'm trying to write a COMPLETE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT for zope . I'll soon be out with a
Raj Shastrakar < shastrakar@hbcse.tifr.res.in >
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