Anyone got any pointers on how to do this? I currently have a system that outputs a structured menu like so; Theme A: The Cell Cells and tissues, ... Description Departments Aims and Objectives Overall Aims Specific Objectives Transferable Skills Content Teaching Methods Lectures Practical Sessions Self-Directed Study Assessment etc.etc. This is done with DTML (excuse it's quality...) like; <!--#in expr="get_topics(theguide=id)"--> <!--#if "level==2"-->   <font size=3> <!--#/if--> <!--#if "level==3"-->     <font size=2> <!--#/if--> <!--#if "level==4"-->      <font size=1> <!--#/if--> <!--#if "level==5"-->       <font size=1> <!--#/if--> <a href="show_headers?child=<!--#var tag_id-->"><!--#var header size=25--></a></font> <!--#/in--> where get_topics is select thetag, class, content, level, header as header, tag_id from element where thetag = 'topic' and guideid = '<!--#var theguide-->' order by sequence; So, you see that I get the level information and other good stuff from the query. Is there any way to get #tree involved (now *that* would make for a killer system!). The data from get_topics doesn't change (often) so if it's easier to populate a lines property or a TinyTable object than that's ok (just need to use the manage_*** methods I guess!). I'd just like to know if this is possible or a waste of time ... cheers tone. ------ Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2