Does anyone have any idea why some query strings (inserts) using ZOracleDA connecting to an Oracle 7.3 database, might be truncated at between 2000 and 4000 characters? This is not the LOB problem, (they are not single varchar or long fields) I am talking about the length of the query itself, including the values.. (I have already implemented a workaround for the 2000 char limit per field), its something else and whatever it is, its very difficult to debug... What are the best ways to debug the Zope > oracle connection? Trying to figure out what is happening is like trying to navigate in the dark, given Oracle's terse error output.. Thank you, Chris -- "Every passing hour brings the solar system 43,000 miles closer to globular cluster M13 in Hercules - and still there are some misfits who insist that there is no such thing as progress." -- Kurt Vonnegut Jr.