16/01/2000 19:43:04 thanks. the point is, is it worth doing it? does it work better than with the standar zope webserver or apache? Original message from: Bill Anderson
Ruth Tredinnick wrote:
16/01/2000 19:21:50 can zope run on roxen?
Absolutely!
There are two How-Tos on the Zope site for setting it up. Immortality Systems uses Zope and Roxen toegther ( http://www.immortalitysystems.net ) as does the Linux in Boise Club ( http://www.libc.org ).
You will need to patch Roxen to get it to work fully, as there is a bug in it, if you want Zope to pass rxml tags to Roxen for additional processing.
Bill Anderson Immortality Systems
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Giampiero Raffaini wrote:
16/01/2000 19:43:04 thanks. the point is, is it worth doing it? does it work better than with the standar zope webserver or apache?
Depends on what you want to do. :-) Also depends on who you are. Are you the administrator of the whole kit-n-kaboodle, or are you the webdesigner? For the webdesigner, Roxen and Zope beats Apache/Zope and ZServer alone; hands down. This due primarily to having more options available, and being able to make those options work together. For example, the menu to the left on www.immortalitysystems.net is the resut of a Roxne tag for making autmated javascript rollovers, and Zope producing the url and information for the rxml tag. Hence, in this case, I can add a folder/document/whatever to my menulist, and immediately I get a javascript rollover that requires no additonal effort on my part, and is cross-browser compatible to boot. On www.libc.org I can offer members two ways of doing homepage urls, and two ways of writing their html. They can choose the zope solution under Members/membername, or they can choose the ~membername. With redirection from either webserver, one can be made to be the other, giving a maximal amount of options.
From the administrative side, putting Zope behind any other webserver will increase complexity, and usually adminstration. However, there is a payoff. With pure ZServer-Zope, you don't get SSL, nor the ability to integrate with static html files very easily (if at all).
On the Apache/Roxen admistrative side, I much prefer Roxen. I administered Apache for years, and even worked on an administration tool for it, so I am not talking from a cursory look into it. With a Roxen/Zope combo I can completely admister the site(s) through the web interface. Often times there is no need to restart the server(s) (haven't had one yet, outside of upgrading, or adding products to Zope), even when adding new sites to Roxen, adding modules, or modifying rewriting rules. Roxen provides many things we don't yet have in Zope, or at a more polished level. Apache offers a larger community for support and experience. ZServer provides a one-stop solution when appropriate. As I said, it boils down to what you need. For some things, Roxen/Zope is best, others only Zope, and some others Apache/Zope serves your needs. Bill Anderson -- In flying I have learned that carelessness and overconfidence are usually far more dangerous than deliberately accepted risks. -- Wilbur Wright in a letter to his father, September 1900
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