A couple days ago, I sent a message proposing that creating a <dtml-expr> tag could eliminate a lot of the confusion that new Zope users face. It seems that almost every new Zope user gets hung up on the difference between <dtml-var foo> and <dtml-var "foo">. It just now occurred to me that creating <dtml-expr "foo"> does not solve the problem, because there are still <dtml-if "foo"> and <dtml-in "foo">. While I am certainly in favor of keeping expressions in DTML, it looks like <dtml-expr> is not a good way to eliminate the confusion for new users. Perhaps the best thing is to just make sure that the introductory docs cover that topic very well. Kevin http://www.byproducts.com - Humor and Novelties