hi i have a howto that *really* needs your perusal. the draft is at http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai/BuildSimpleZClass

this is really basic, and is meant to get a real newbie excited. and along the way learn a few things or two.

Thats ok, i am a real newbie and trying things out literally. If it doesn't work i can not correct it myself. I have 4 comments now, the first three quite childish, the fourth stopped me from following your how-to. First thing to comment on: which version of Zope are you using? I am using Zope 2.3.0 and i think things are called a litlle different there. 1 Go to Control Panel. Add New Item, is in Zope 2.3.0 Go to Control Panel>>Products or Product Management in the main frame>>Add Product 2 To do this select Zclass:Object Manager from the list is missing "and push add" The same with Enter tbEntry as id, title and metatype and "push add" 3 Add new property sheet is called Add Common Instance property sheet in 2.3.0 4 Then something serieus which stopped me following your How-to: To add a catalog to the talkback instance programatically click the talkback factory('tbContainer_add'). There are two possibilities in 2.3.0: - tbContainer_factory (tbContainer factory) -tbContainer_add (tbContainer constructor) I think that you want me to add something in the constructor, but that is not a factory. Where do i have to add it in the constructor, before or below <dtml-with "tbContainer.createInObjectManager(REQUEST['id'], REQUEST)"> Met vriendelijke groeten, Hans de Wit h.de.wit@scp.nl