porting a brilliant cms to a superior platform
I am a zope hobbyist, and have been using it for a while on a few projects but am still getting to grips with it. Recently I had to evaluate a stable, open-source, total content management and e-commerce solution for use as a commercial site. As I am not yet experienced enough to implement this kind of solution I went looking for something that was easy to use, functional, stable and open source. A big ask - and in the back of my mind I thought I'd have to start looking at commercial products - but then lo and behold I came across: eZpublish from eZ Systems (www.ez.no) It's absolutely brilliant, it handles article management with comments, forums, link management, photo gallerys, user management, caching etc. AND e-commerce (shopping carts, wishlists and ordering). It also supports windows, mac-os and linux (gtk i think) GUI clients for updating the site. It written in PHP4 and runs on apache and mysql and the code looks pretty complicated (although I don't really know PHP that well). My question is: Whould anyone be interested in porting this system (or consolodating and pollishing existing zope products) to create a simliar zope solution? All the advantages of zope object oriented nature and security could be utilised to create an absolutely killer app that could install from one single file, run on multiple operating systems, and maintained by even the biggest newbies. Also the existing documentation and even the GUI clients could be utilised if the systems were kept similar enough. Just something to think about. I admire the work of all the zope developers and just want say a big 'thank you' for all the work they've done. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------- :: Myles Byrne | myles@byrnewebservices.com :. ---------------------------------------------------- --
From: "Myles Byrne" <myles@byrnewebservices.com>
A big ask - and in the back of my mind I thought I'd have to start looking at commercial products - but then lo and behold I came across:
eZpublish from eZ Systems (www.ez.no)
It's absolutely brilliant, it handles article management with comments, forums, link management, photo gallerys, user management, caching etc. AND e-commerce (shopping carts, wishlists and ordering).
Out of interest: What is it you find so brilliant with it? I logged in onto their demo site, and they don't support articles in any kind of rich text format. I couldn't see any type of navigation support, supposedly new articles just pop up under the category you entered with the latest first or something. And I couldn't see any publishing workflow... I didn't see a trace of the e-commerce support either. But I guess they just didn't have that in the demo. So what is it that is so brilliant? Granted, it's cheap, but otherwise it seems to have the same features that thousants of php publishing hacks has. So I seem to have missed out on something here.
It written in PHP4 and runs on apache and mysql and the code looks pretty complicated (although I don't really know PHP that well).
PHP code has a tendency to become that. :-)
My question is:
Whould anyone be interested in porting this system (or consolodating and pollishing existing zope products) to create a simliar zope solution?
Porting is really not feasible as such. That flat record based thinking that PHP (and ASP) solutions are forced into does not make sense on a modern object platform like Zope. However, if you take Easy Publisher (http://easypublisher.torped.se/) you have a content management system vastly superiour to ezPublish. If you want discussions you can use ZUBB, I guess (http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB). It's nothing special, but neither is the forums in eZPublish. (There are better, free PHP forums on the net). For e-commerce support you have zCommerce (http://www.zope.org/Members/ngarcia/zCommerce) I haven't used it and have no clue if it's any good, but then again, I don't know if what ezPublish e-commerce can do. :-) So, you can quickly and easily consolidate something that kicks ezPublish's ass yourself. :-)
At 1:55 PM +0100 3/6/02, Lennart Regebro wrote:
If you want discussions you can use ZUBB, I guess (http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/ZUBB). It's nothing special, but neither is the forums in eZPublish. (There are better, free PHP forums on the net).
While I hesitate to say it is "nothing special" since I have been using it on 4/5 sites for over 2 years and have really never had a problem with it as some boards have over 4500 posts, I would say it is more simple than others. Obviously, the beuty of Zope here is that you can take ZUBB and turn it into whatever you want. Add smiley faces, or emoticons, or whatever cheezy poof thing you can think of. The purpose of ZUBB is to have a threaded discussion board application that can scale, is searchable and easy to install, use. It is open source, so anyone can (and has) particpate. BZ
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