Well, with a bit more poking and Bens help I have found the following Z SQL Forms/Reporter tools: (SQLForms/Reporter, Znolk, SQL Blender, ZDataQueryKit, P SQL Input Wizard) Holy product overlap Batman! I guess it is a good thing that enough people are interested to build products but it makes for a long selection process. I thought in the interest of helping those who come after me I would give my thoughts on each. SQLForms/Reporter: Seems to be the most option heavy of the choices but requires a fair bit of setup and has decent documentation. The author is releasing v3.1 soon. Includes a SQL Form builder and a SQL Report builder. Form builder allows the following DB interaction methods, add, edit, and list. Znolk: Seems to have the broadest DB type support(Interbase, MySQL, etc...). However, I didn't research it very much because it is copylefted :(. SQL Blender: Seems to be the most automated of the options. Easily builds preformatted ZSQL methods based upon table browser data from your database adapter. As the frontpage for SQL Blender says "fast, easy, forgiving". The generated DB interaction functions include, insert, select, and update. Note, as of zope Zope 2.5.1, requires manually applying a patch to sqlgroup.py to add <sql-comma> functionality. ZDataQueryKit: Seems to have found the midground between ease of use and features. Focuses on generating SQL based reports rather than generting forms for database interaction. The reporting tool is great and allows for custom CSS in the generated reports. Also includes several tools for visually designing SQL Queries and combining data from different database adapters. P SQL Input Wizard: Seems to have been largely deprecated in favor of the more feature rich options. Whew, that was fun. Anyways, I hope this helps someone out in the future and I wish I had someplace 'official' to place this but the mailing list will have to do. If anyone out there wishes to dispute my humble opinions, please do! Speaking of humble opinions, I think someone (lord knows im not qualified) needs to push for combining a few of these products into a single product. Perhaps called, Z SQL Formporter :). Ughhh...that a horrible name. Regards, Derek Basch --- Ben Avery <ben@thesite.org> wrote:

this could even turn into a three way match:

http://www.zope.org/Members/adustman/Products/SQLBlender

which is like znolk, but adds a couple of nice things into sqlgroup to let you do things like

update aardvark <dtml-sqlgroup set noparens> <dtml-sqltest name type="string" op="eq"> <dtml-comma> <dtml-sqltest length type="int" op="eq" optional> <dtml-comma> <dtml-sqltest age type="int" op="eq" optional> </dtml-sqlgroup> where aard_id = <dtml-sqlvar id type="int">

to build flexible update statements to match whatever parameters you pass in.

Derek Basch wrote:

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Hello All, I am trying to decide between the SQL Forms Wizard product and the Znolk SQL Wizard product. Both seem to do about the same thing.

http://www.zope.org/Members/Ioan/SQLForms/ http://www.zope.org/Members/zwork/Znolk_SQL_Wizard

SQL Forms Wizard: "Automatically generate list,add,edit methods"

Znolk SQL Wizard: "forms for browsing,inserting,updating,deleting data"

Anyways, can anyone give recommendations either way? Thanks, Derek Basch

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