Hi, After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including PHITE... I finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature. For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server? Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the life of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The Zope Book" and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management". For those interested, here are others I found @ Amazon: - The Book of Zope by Beehive - Zope Developer's Handbook by John D. Rowell - Zope Bible by Michael Bernstein (Author), Scott Robertson (Author) - Zope Power Tools: by Michael R Bernstein - Zope Web Application Construction Kit by Martina Brockmann (Editor), et al - Professional Zope: Pro Zope by Staff Wrox Press Inc. Availability: Out of Print--Limited Availability - Zope by Pierre Julien Grizel Availability: This item has not yet been released. - Programming Zope by Gold Availability: Out of Print--Limited Availability Thx Fred.
Frederic Faure wrote:
For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features?
I don't know of all products, so I couldn't say, but it sure is darn unusal. :)
What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server?
MS CMS uses MS SQL Server for storage. (Surprise!)
Frederic Faure wrote:
Hi,
After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including PHITE... I finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.
For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server?
I can't tell if Zope is unique, but CMSWatch gives you a good overview about CMS Products: http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/ Tonico -- Tonico Strasser, WebDesigner Contact me mailto:contact_tonico@yahoo.de Visit my HomePage http://Tonico.FreeZope.org
Tonico Strasser wrote:
Frederic Faure wrote:
Hi,
After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including PHITE... I finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.
For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server?
I can't tell if Zope is unique, but CMSWatch gives you a good overview about CMS Products: http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/
Except that last I checked they charger $3000 a year to be on the list. (I assume this is only for the commercial products, but anyway), so I actually don't really trust it to be a GOOD overview. But it's an overview, yes. :) The best overview of CMS products I have found are unfortunately only in german: www.contentmanagement.de This one is pretty comprehensive too: http://www.hartman-communicatie.nl/Content/tools.htm
Dear Frederic - Frederic Faure <ffaure@bigfoot.com> writes:
For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server?
You'll probably find that "web application servers" like weblogic and websphere are more comparable. Though those tools suffer from the excessive costs and poor support that are endemic to commercial software. Yours - Billy ============================================================ William Goedicke goedicke@goedsole.com http://www.goedsole.com:8080 ============================================================ Lest we forget: The best documentation is a collection of succinctly explained simple examples of every aspect of a system. - William Goedicke
For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features?
It's certainly unusual. There are a few Java and other OO-dbs that can provide hierarchical object persistence. Anything more similar I've never heard seen.
What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server?
Definitely no on ColdFusion. The MS thing was built by someone else (surprise!) and acquired a year and a half ago or so; it may look a little like Zope, but I think it's also a big fat "no" on that too.
Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the life of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The Zope Book" and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management".
Besides the New Riders book, I hear the "Zope Bible" title is pretty good. There has long been rumor of an O'Reilly title, but if they're working on one, it isn't here yet. I've started working on a web-equivalent of a Zope book (not that I wouldn't entertain a publisher), but it'll take some time to get its legs, and it's not on paper, so that probably won't help you much. --jcc
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