I'll take a look at it; primarily, I guess I'm curious how it maps threads and transactions; does it use a DA to manage that? I guess I can look at the code? Thanks for pointing this out. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Stephan Richter [mailto:srichter@cbu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:49 AM To: sean.upton@uniontrib.com; jacob@prisonbooks.org; zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] can I move my zope site off zope?

Best: Python API / abstracted framework for data access, used by Zope Python product; well documented with UML diagrams of class relationships and inheritance; ZPT for presentation. Persistent objects in ODB represent underlying relational data. Reuse of code and patterns on future products.

You know there is a tool called DBObjects out there that does the R2O mapping for you... ;-) It is used in some major projects too... Unfortunately, you need to know how to write Python products (just a little bit of it); one day I will use MakeProduct to generate all that automatically as well. Site: http://demo.iuveno-net.de/iuveno/Products/DBObjects

The downside to this is that it makes you do more work than simply using a DA... but it buys flexibility...

DBObjects does not bypass anything... :-) Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management