Software Patents and Content Management Systems
Hi, I am sorry for this excessive crossposting, but it is urgent and important. The ffii.org made a list of cms-related patents. They need some feedback from people actively using or developing Content Management Systems to qualify the patents. Please note that there is an ongoing legislative process in the european parliament. Time is running short and the patent-holding companies are doing an aggressive lobbying. Please consider the listed patent descriptions in context of your favorite Zope CMS and give feedback to Holger Blasum or Dirk Steuwer from FFII. Clarify to them to which extent your favorite Zope CMS could be affected by the given patent. Please reply to me, Dirk Steuwer and Holger Blasum Thanks for your help! juh And here are the links! THIS IS THE LIST! English and German descriptions http://wiki.ffii.org/CMSPatente04De -> gefundene Patente, found patents PDF-Version with english and german descriptions http://www.stop-swpat.de/docs/Patente_CMS.pdf Some other Links GUI-patents webshop.ffii.org other Links: http://nibiru.borg.metux.de:7000/wiki/index.php/Patentverletzer/Datenbank/Vo... http://swpat.ffii.org/vreji/pikta/index.de.html http://gauss.ffii.org/ P.S. There is an urgent call to action on www.nosoftwarepatents.com from the sponsors of this anti-patent-site, which is now run by the FFII. Lobbying against Software patents needs money. If you want to help, please contact the given email-address listed here: http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=474 -- DZUG e.V. Telefon: +49 (0)3496/309 49 7 Schalaunische Strasse 6 Telefax: +49 (0)3496 309 91 18 06366 Köthen http://www.dzug.org http://www.zope.de
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On Apr 5, 2005 12:53 PM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke <janulrich.hasecke@web.de> wrote:
Hi,
I am sorry for this excessive crossposting, but it is urgent and important.
I agree.
Please consider the listed patent descriptions in context of your favorite Zope CMS and give feedback to Holger Blasum or Dirk Steuwer from FFII. Clarify to them to which extent your favorite Zope CMS could be affected by the given patent.
The name of a patent doesn't really say much. You now asked people, who mostly are not knowledgeable about patents, to read through a whole bunch of patents, and say if these may be applicable to their CMSs. I find that request quite unreasonable. Judging from the english titles alone, all the patents are applicable to anything that uses Zope, but I assume this is not what you need to know, as you surely are aware of that already. A description (in english) of what the patents actually try to patent would probably be more useful. It is quite often very hard to figure that out from the patents itself, unless you are a patent clerk, which I'm not, and besides there are no links to the patents, so it is impossible to do anyway. A list of what is actually supposed to be patented would be possible for us poor non-lawyers to actually go through and see if they are relevant. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/
Lennart Regebro schrieb:
The name of a patent doesn't really say much. You now asked people, who mostly are not knowledgeable about patents, to read through a whole bunch of patents, and say if these may be applicable to their CMSs. I find that request quite unreasonable. Judging from the english titles alone, all the patents are applicable to anything that uses Zope, but I assume this is not what you need to know, as you surely are aware of that already.
Yes, the description is not too informative. I am sorry. You will find further information by going to http://depatisnet.dpma.de Try the english UI. Query for the Patent-Number given in the short list and then open the PDF. There you will find a more detailed description of the patent in English. I will try to find the address of the european patent office. juh -- DZUG e.V. Telefon: +49 (0)3496/309 49 7 Schalaunische Strasse 6 Telefax: +49 (0)3496 309 91 18 06366 Köthen http://www.dzug.org http://www.zope.de
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Lennart Regebro <regebro@gmail.com> wrote:
I am sorry for this excessive crossposting, but it is urgent and important.
I agree.
Please consider the listed patent descriptions in context of your favorite Zope CMS and give feedback to Holger Blasum or Dirk Steuwer from FFII. Clarify to them to which extent your favorite Zope CMS could be affected by the given patent.
The name of a patent doesn't really say much. You now asked people, who mostly are not knowledgeable about patents, to read through a whole bunch of patents, and say if these may be applicable to their CMSs. I find that request quite unreasonable. Judging from the english titles alone, all the patents are applicable to anything that uses Zope, but I assume this is not what you need to know, as you surely are aware of that already.
A description (in english) of what the patents actually try to patent would probably be more useful. It is quite often very hard to figure that out from the patents itself, unless you are a patent clerk, which I'm not, and besides there are no links to the patents, so it is impossible to do anyway.
A list of what is actually supposed to be patented would be possible for us poor non-lawyers to actually go through and see if they are relevant.
Linus Torvalds and others have suggested that from a legal point of view it is a bad idea to read through existing patents to see if some apply to your software, because it shows you were aware of being infringing on them. Florent -- Florent Guillaume, Nuxeo (Paris, France) CTO, Director of R&D +33 1 40 33 71 59 http://nuxeo.com fg@nuxeo.com
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Linus Torvalds and others have suggested that from a legal point of view it is a bad idea to read through existing patents to see if some apply to your software, because it shows you were aware of being infringing on them.
Under US law, knowing infringement triples the damages. Lobbying is one thing, but one we in the US can't help with (for the current EU jockeying, anway). Contributing to a "prior art" portfolio which enables attacks on such patents might be another useful tactic. Tres. - -- =============================================================== Tres Seaver tseaver@zope.com Zope Corporation "Zope Dealers" http://www.zope.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCUpz2GqWXf00rNCgRAo+sAJ4idDZX7t6riVx9YF/cFmsQz47uWACfRnBU 61l/nyktbbT9Ghi6/ZcvUP4= =yFnV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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