-----Original Message----- From: Pavlos Christoforou <pavlos@gaaros.msrc.sunysb.edu> To: Samu Mielonen <ex@uiah.fi> Cc: zope@zope.org <zope@zope.org> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] I give up - I want BUY Zope consulting

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Samu Mielonen wrote:

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and to think that I've studied computer science, programmed several languages and thought I understood Zope's principles :)

From your post I gathered that you are not a Python programmer. So much of Zope relies on python that I believe if you give python a fair chance a lot of things will become clearer. Do not forget that DTML Methods etc were meant for simple things. More complex situations (like the one you descripe) are so much easier in external methods or products.

Though I like working with ZClasses, I would have to agree with you. When things get much beyond a "Document Template" sort of requirement, working in python seems to be much more efficient. And the nice thing is that you can still use ZClasses to allow for easy, user-defined sorts of properties. If it weren't for the fact that *all* of my cycles have been taken up lately, I would probably be interested in contributing to a News tool that meets most news site requirements... Kevin