So how do you turn on Editplus color highlight for dtml documents? I found the dtml file and installed it and found the settings tab to enable a new file type, but it is looking for an extension to associate with. How did you work around that? Looks like Editplus has made some improvements since I last looked at it. BUT, it will have to be VERY improved to get me to switch away from HomeSite - which IMHO is the BEST (Windows) tool with which to work with Zope files. I would be glad to talk offline about it since I have bored the group too often with it's praises in the past. <8^) -Allen -----Original Message----- From: hans [mailto:hans@beehive.de] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:43 AM To: Wendy Langer Cc: Zope List Subject: Re: [Zope] color-syntax editor for dtml Wendy Langer wrote:
Hi everyone, I was just wondering on what people's opinions are on the best applications to use for editing dtml files - I want something with at least a bit of syntax coloring - is there anything designed specifically for dtml? If not, what else would be best to use?
http://www.editplus.com/ has dtml-syntaxcolor -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Who's got only a hammer sees the world as a nail hans augustin (software developer) hans@beehive.de beehive elektronische medien GmbH http://www.beehive.de phone: +49 30 847-82 0 fax: +49 30 847-82 299 _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
"Schmidt, Allen J." wrote:
So how do you turn on Editplus color highlight for dtml documents? I found the dtml file and installed it and found the settings tab to enable a new file type, but it is looking for an extension to associate with. How did you work around that? Looks like Editplus has made some improvements since I last looked at it. BUT, it will have to be VERY improved to get me to switch away from HomeSite - which IMHO is the BEST (Windows) tool with which to work with Zope files. I would be glad to talk offline about it since I have bored the group too often with it's praises in the past. <8^)
-Allen
-----Original Message----- From: hans [mailto:hans@beehive.de] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:43 AM To: Wendy Langer Cc: Zope List Subject: Re: [Zope] color-syntax editor for dtml
Wendy Langer wrote:
Hi everyone, I was just wondering on what people's opinions are on the best applications to use for editing dtml files - I want something with at least a bit of syntax coloring - is there anything designed specifically for dtml? If not, what else would be best to use?
http://www.editplus.com/ has dtml-syntaxcolor
i dont use hilight (at least for dtml), i use ultraedit but editplus (tried some time ago) comes close sorry then, cant help ------------------------------------------------------------- Who's got only a hammer sees the world as a nail hans augustin (software developer) hans@beehive.de beehive elektronische medien GmbH http://www.beehive.de phone: +49 30 847-82 0 fax: +49 30 847-82 299
[Schmidt, Allen J]
So how do you turn on Editplus color highlight for dtml documents? I found the dtml file and installed it and found the settings tab to enable a new file type, but it is looking for an extension to associate with. How did you work around that? Looks like Editplus has made some improvements since I last looked at it. BUT, it will have to be VERY improved to get me to switch away from HomeSite - which IMHO is the BEST (Windows) tool with which to work with Zope files. I would be glad to talk offline about it since I have bored the group too often with it's praises in the past. <8^)
I don't know that you can get it to recognize dtml files with no extensions, but you can manually set the document type for a specific document to be whatever you like. Cheers, Tom P
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 02:16 pm, Thomas B. Passin allegedly wrote:
I don't know that you can get it to recognize dtml files with no extensions, but you can manually set the document type for a specific document to be whatever you like.
Cheers,
Tom P
This is one of the things I really like about nedit. It can introspect the file to guess its type. Introspecting dtml (and zpt) is trivial, so it works very well for extension-less Zope scripts. Nedit is free, runs on most plaforms, although not natively under windows (it requires cygwin). It is however, very intuitive to use. -Casey
Casey, it looks good but I've made it a point to try to keep XServers off my system (Win2000) if I can. Cygwin is fine, I've got it, but I've never been happy with XServers (though it's been a few uears since last I used one). So I'm going to give nedit a miss for now. Tom P [Casey Duncan] On Wednesday 01 May 2002 02:16 pm, Thomas B. Passin allegedly wrote:
I don't know that you can get it to recognize dtml files with no
extensions,
but you can manually set the document type for a specific document to be whatever you like.
Cheers,
Tom P
This is one of the things I really like about nedit. It can introspect the file to guess its type. Introspecting dtml (and zpt) is trivial, so it works very well for extension-less Zope scripts. Nedit is free, runs on most plaforms, although not natively under windows (it requires cygwin). It is however, very intuitive to use.
Now, I realize that text editors are a highly personal affair, but I can't for the life of me figure out why it is that Emacs doesn't get more attention, especially amongst Zopistas. Emacs will happily edit Zope objects via FTP, it has intelligent modes for SQL, DTML, HTML, XML, and Python (and a whole lot more). In fact, Emacs' Python mode and PSGML (xml mode) are really hard to beat. Modern versions of Emacs are also about as point-and-clicky as you could want (in a text editor anyway), and there is even a very useable vi emulation mode for folks that are allergic to Emacs-style key chording. Not too mention the fact that Emacs runs on everything that can even remotely be considered as a "computer." Approximately a million years ago Emacs had the downside of being a resource hog, but compared to most recent development packages Emacs is positively svelte. Sorry for the rant, Emacs made me do it. Jason On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 14:02, Thomas B. Passin wrote:
Casey, it looks good but I've made it a point to try to keep XServers off my system (Win2000) if I can. Cygwin is fine, I've got it, but I've never been happy with XServers (though it's been a few uears since last I used one). So I'm going to give nedit a miss for now.
Tom P
[Casey Duncan]
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 02:16 pm, Thomas B. Passin allegedly wrote:
I don't know that you can get it to recognize dtml files with no
extensions,
but you can manually set the document type for a specific document to be whatever you like.
Cheers,
Tom P
This is one of the things I really like about nedit. It can introspect the file to guess its type. Introspecting dtml (and zpt) is trivial, so it works very well for extension-less Zope scripts.
Nedit is free, runs on most plaforms, although not natively under windows (it requires cygwin). It is however, very intuitive to use.
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On Wednesday 01 May 2002 04:25 pm, Jason Earl allegedly wrote:
Now, I realize that text editors are a highly personal affair, but I can't for the life of me figure out why it is that Emacs doesn't get more attention, especially amongst Zopistas.
Saying emacs doesn't get enough attention is like saying Elvis doesn't get enough recognition. Maybe in the Windows world, emacs is a bit more rare, I dunno. I'm surrounded by emacsillians everywhere I go ;^). <quote type="stolen" flameability-quotent="high"> Emacs is a nice operating system, it lacks a decent editor though </quote> -Casey
Jason Earl wrote:
Now, I realize that text editors are a highly personal affair, but I can't for the life of me figure out why it is that Emacs doesn't get more attention, especially amongst Zopistas. Emacs will happily edit
Emacs is very different from vim (or vice-versa :-)), so people who use mainly vim and are very proficient in vim find it difficult to adapt to. Other issues: - emacs is huge. This means that it is often not installed on many systems (even though it can run on those systems). Vim is always installed. And if not vim, then at least vi. - emacs is very very stable. Vim is rock stable. It just never crashed on me. Let's not start a flamewar. The above are the reasons why I personally prefer vim to emacs. Do you know if emacs supports DTML highligting even for &dtml-var; entity syntax? -- Milos Prudek
* Milos Prudek <milos.prudek@tiscali.cz> writes:
Jason Earl wrote:
Now, I realize that text editors are a highly personal affair, but I can't for the life of me figure out why it is that Emacs doesn't get more attention, especially amongst Zopistas. Emacs will happily edit
Emacs is very different from vim (or vice-versa :-)),
Indeed. vim is an editor. (X)Emacs is a development environment. Editing with Emacs goes way beyond writing text and highlighting their syntax. If you find anything closely resembling http://www.zope.org/Members/alburt/dtml_mode.html for vim, you may call me whatever name you fancy. But you won't. It's a philosophy thing - you can whack together 20 programs and run them from or beside vim; or you can use an integrated tool like XEmacs and benefit from one (admittedly slightly archaic) user interface for things like ftp, CVS, DTML, XML, HTML... you name it.
so people who use mainly vim and are very proficient in vim find it difficult to adapt to.
Not at all. And neither vice versa. I use both, but for different purposes: vim is a great and fast editor. I use it to edit texts. I don't use it for any sort of programming, mainly because I'm used to saying things like C-x C-q and watch the file check itself into CVS.
Other issues:
- emacs is huge. This means that it is often not installed on many systems (even though it can run on those systems). Vim is always installed. And if not vim, then at least vi.
Yes, Emacs is huge. Eighty Megs And Constantly Swapping. But how large is vim plus nsgmls plus a web browser plus an ftp client plus...
- emacs is very very stable. Vim is rock stable. It just never crashed on me.
It's crashed on me. Both of them have. Very rarely.
Do you know if emacs supports DTML highligting even for &dtml-var; entity syntax?
If not (I don't use syntax highlighting), it can be easily added. Remember: XEmacs is the extensible, customizable, self-documenting real-time display editor. And then some. Besides which, XEmacs looks 1000x slicker than vim: http://my.gnus.org/Members/robin/Wiki/CustomSetup
Do you know if emacs supports DTML highligting even for &dtml-var; entity syntax?
It looks exactly like any other entity in emacs' html-mode. Highlighted purple in my setup. -- "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 09:27:52AM -0700, Paul Winkler wrote:
Do you know if emacs supports DTML highligting even for &dtml-var; entity syntax?
It looks exactly like any other entity in emacs' html-mode. Highlighted purple in my setup.
Forgot to say: I haven't tried dtml-mode. I don't use dtml any more if I can help it. :) -- "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
Milos Prudek writes:
Emacs is very different from vim (or vice-versa :-)), so people who use mainly vim and are very proficient in vim find it difficult to adapt to. Do you know "viper"? It provides most of "vi" in Emacs.
Viele Grüße Dieter
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