Using wget to directly call the management interface to do packing is, in some ways, much nicer since it does not depend on mysterious (and presumably undocumented and potentially volatile) magical utilities. On the other hand, i hate having to leave my management password out in the open in plaintext form in case some part of my system is compromised. I presume regular re-packing is a standard thing for EVERY zope installation. If I forget to do it, it can make my whole site unstable. This is a real issue on a site where somebody might take an unexpected trip, or there is a staffing change, or even just an illness. It seems like a option for automatic time-or-size based re-packing would be an appropriate and easy feature to add to zope itself, rather than these hacky solutions. Greg