hi, i've been noticing something happening in a rather sporadic way. sometimes when i try to install a new product -- the specific example right now is LoginManager -- i cannot get it to install correctly. i notice that some of the *.pyc files do not get generated; when i try to run these from the console, i get errors that indicate the .py file cannot find the appropriate class.method, etc., although in the lib/python/ directory, the class and methods are there. if i launch python from the console into interactive mode, and do the following, $ python >>> import sys >>> sys.path the returned value does not display the zope/lib/python/ directory -- so after reading a lot of python documentation, cruising the zope.org search facility, i can define the pythonpath in my shell, but this is good only for my console, how do i make these zope python libraries available to zope? ciao! greg. Gregory Haley DBA/Web Programming Venaca, LLC.