RE: [Zope] Is there any plans to combine harvest with catalog?
Ahh, Harvest. Brings back old memories. I started using it in 1992/93 and we actually fielded some consulting opportunities using it before the group disbanded (most going to Netscape to start the Catalog Server).
I thought Harvest was mostly dead?
Anyway, having a web crawler index your site has strengths and limitations as have been described here. We at one time had extended Harvest to make it "play nice" with an object system we had created (for employment info), but in the end the two architectures were too disimilar.
With the advent of the Zope Catalog an intersting derivative idea might be to allow Zope to cough up RDF descriptions of definable (i.e., /Zope/Marketing/*, /Zope/US/Sales*, etc.) portions of the object space. I know that InfoSeek's Ultraseek and Netscape's Compass servers will gather RDF (to use a Harvest word). This lets the local server add most of the value and the spider's can come along for a relatively low-impact RDF snarfing visit. Thoughts? --Rob
Rob Page wrote:
With the advent of the Zope Catalog an intersting derivative idea might be to allow Zope to cough up RDF descriptions of definable (i.e., /Zope/Marketing/*, /Zope/US/Sales*, etc.) portions of the object space. I know that InfoSeek's Ultraseek and Netscape's Compass servers will gather RDF (to use a Harvest word). This lets the local server add most of the value and the spider's can come along for a relatively low-impact RDF snarfing visit.
Ah yes, and if Zope has the ability to pull in and parse RDF from other sites, you would have a standards based mechanism for sharing/syndicating content among Zope sites (Clobber Vignettes iSyndicate). I would love to be able to 'subscribe' my sites to subsections of www.dmoz.org (for example), add my own value-added content, and then allow other sites to 'subscribe' to my value-added version. As an example, much of the information in the Zope section of the ODP (http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Application/Zope/) is currently duplicated in sections of the zope.org site. It ought to be possible to set one up as being authoritative, and allow the other to update itself periodically from the first (yes I realize that this requires cooperation from both sites). Anyway, that's my blue-sky thought for the day... Michael Bernstein.
Michael Bernstein wrote:
Ah yes, and if Zope has the ability to pull in and parse RDF from other sites, you would have a standards based mechanism for sharing/syndicating content among Zope sites (Clobber Vignettes iSyndicate).
I would love to be able to 'subscribe' my sites to subsections of www.dmoz.org (for example), add my own value-added content, and then allow other sites to 'subscribe' to my value-added version.
Note that this general mechanism could be used for almost any type of content, including Slashdot/Squishdot style news articles and comments, directories such as www.dmoz.org, event calendars, image galleries, etc. (sigh)I wish I was a better programmer... Michael.
Replying to myself again... I found a related thread over on scriptingnews.com: http://discuss.userland.com/msgReader$7333 VERY interesting discussion, and they already have this capability for Frontier. Michael Bernstein wrote:
Michael Bernstein wrote:
Ah yes, and if Zope has the ability to pull in and parse RDF from other sites, you would have a standards based mechanism for sharing/syndicating content among Zope sites (Clobber Vignettes iSyndicate).
I would love to be able to 'subscribe' my sites to subsections of www.dmoz.org (for example), add my own value-added content, and then allow other sites to 'subscribe' to my value-added version.
Note that this general mechanism could be used for almost any type of content, including Slashdot/Squishdot style news articles and comments, directories such as www.dmoz.org, event calendars, image galleries, etc.
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