The MLM, and associated SPAM filtering, is not buggy, but its not perfect either. I have noticed that the amount of SPAM on this list has been decreasing over the last little while, and frankly, I don't think that every item can be zapped, though I expect things will get better over time. The reason SPAM is annoying is the same reason pop-up ads are annoying - they require you to do something in response like close a window or click delete. On a similar note, a request I might have: I use Outlook (not by choice, its our corporate MUA), and every message that I receive from you to the list is posted with a follow-up flag, which I have to subsequently clear with two mouse clicks. I hope I don't cause offense with my request that you might look into having your MUA disable this from its mail headers? Thanks, Sean -----Original Message----- From: Robin S. Socha [mailto:robin-dated-1015771984.017dee@socha.net] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:28 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Dear Listowner... (was: [±¤°í]Á¶È­À¯¿µ¾î ¿¥ÇǾ²¸®Ç÷¹ÀÌ¾î ¹«·áÀ̺¥Æ®!!!) In the light of the amount of SPAM I'm seeing from the Zope lists, I wonder if you've ever tought about, like, doing something about it? Like the magic -x switch to *hint* *hint* ezmlm-make and its good ole mimeremove facility. The Mailman FAQ specifically mentions stripmime and demime. Running reverse DNS lookups on the senders would be kinda kinky, too. And... whatever... :-/ So, dear Listowner, could you PLEASE TURN THIS CRAP OFF? That'd be much appreciated, really. Do I sound bitter? That's because I just found out that this month alone, I've received 1335 pieces of SPAM. And somehow I feel that I don't need dysfunctionally configured MLMs to add to that. And while you're at it, could you please consider fixing the banner: ,---- | 1 _______________________________________________ | 2 Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org | 3 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope | 4 ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** | 5 (Related lists - | 6 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce | 7 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) `---- 1: Not needed. 2. Sure, stick it in the subject AND the banner. How about some audio, too? 3. Needed? 4. Meaningless. This is an MLM option - use it. 5-7 Superfluous Let's try this again: ,---- | -- | Zope@zope.org archives: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/ | Other Zope lists: http://lists.zope.org/ | Further reading: http://www.zope.org/Documentation `---- Look, Ma, it's only got 3 lines, but more info! *mumblemumble* ;-) _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )