Installing on Apache ISP without server process
Hi, I am planning to move to a CMS, and Zope/Plone look like exactly what I am wanting. However, I have hit a snag. All the documentation I can find seems to assume ZServer is running, and that CGI is deprecated. However, my ISP does not allow long-running background processes, so this is not an option for me. Can I still run Zope without a server process? If so, where would I find documentation on how to go about it? (If not, I will have to regretfully say goodbye to Zope and look at other CMSs instead.) My web site only serves of the order of hundreds of pages per day, so performance is not a critical issue. Is there anything I can point my ISP at which would help _them_ install Zope and provide the server process? Thanks in advance, Ian Brockbank ian@scottishdance.net webmaster, http://www.scottishdance.net/ and http://www.rscds.org/
I never used the cgi option so I may be wrong, but I think you'll need a long running background process anyway, as the pcgi support is done via file sockets. Zope is not a regular cgi application. Regards, Sandor
-----Original Message----- From: zope-bounces@zope.org [mailto:zope-bounces@zope.org] On Behalf Of Ian Brockbank Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:36 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Installing on Apache ISP without server process
Hi,
I am planning to move to a CMS, and Zope/Plone look like exactly what I am wanting. However, I have hit a snag. All the documentation I can find seems to assume ZServer is running, and that CGI is deprecated. However, my ISP does not allow long-running background processes, so this is not an option for me.
Can I still run Zope without a server process? If so, where would I find documentation on how to go about it? (If not, I will have to regretfully say goodbye to Zope and look at other CMSs instead.)
My web site only serves of the order of hundreds of pages per day, so performance is not a critical issue.
Is there anything I can point my ISP at which would help _them_ install Zope and provide the server process?
Thanks in advance,
Ian Brockbank ian@scottishdance.net webmaster, http://www.scottishdance.net/ <http://www.scottishdance.net/> and http://www.rscds.org/ <http://www.rscds.org/>
Hi All, Okay, so it looks like Zope is not currently possible on my ISP (no long-running background processes allowed). However, they have at least invited me to try to persuade them to support it. Are there any resources I can point them at which are specifically aimed at ISPs providing Zope hosting? Are the following the references I need, or are there other better ones for ISPs? http://zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/VirtualHosting.stx http://www.zope.org/Members/mwr/VHosts_With_Zope_Default Would they be able to have a separate database for each user, or would they have to have one database partioned by user? I really like Zope, so it would be great if I could persuade my ISP to support it. Thanks in advance for any pointers you can give, Ian Brockbank Edinburgh, Scotland ian@scottishdance.net http://www.scottishdance.net/
Why not just switch providers? // m On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 04:29, Ian Brockbank wrote:
Hi All,
Okay, so it looks like Zope is not currently possible on my ISP (no long-running background processes allowed). However, they have at least invited me to try to persuade them to support it.
Are there any resources I can point them at which are specifically aimed at ISPs providing Zope hosting? Are the following the references I need, or are there other better ones for ISPs?
http://zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/VirtualHosting.stx
http://www.zope.org/Members/mwr/VHosts_With_Zope_Default
Would they be able to have a separate database for each user, or would they have to have one database partioned by user?
I really like Zope, so it would be great if I could persuade my ISP to support it.
Thanks in advance for any pointers you can give,
Ian Brockbank Edinburgh, Scotland ian@scottishdance.net http://www.scottishdance.net/
Ian Brockbank said:
Hi All,
Okay, so it looks like Zope is not currently possible on my ISP (no long-running background processes allowed)...
It sounds like you're talking about your web host, not your ISP - correct? I'm currently using two Zope-friendly web hosts: 1. http://www.zettai.net/ This site is pretty good - you can get started with a zope account for $6 / month. And you can do most of the common Zope things with that. But I'm also using: 2. http://www.rimuhosting.com This is a VPS host - which means that you have a virtual private server to your self. You can run whatever servers you want. I'm paying $40/month for my package. On this host, I'm doing my real programming - running a couple of zope instances (A production and a development server), a custom application server I'm writing that communicates via XML-RPC, etc. Robb
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