You are using Zope 2.3.x, right? Just a quick reminder to mention that in inquiries to this list, because it is quite old and could cause confusion if people try to reproduce your problem - I wasn't mislead, this is just a general remark.

2.4.2, actually. You're right, I should have mentioned that *much* earlier.

About your other problem, before pasting an object into a container, it is tested if you are allowed to add an object of this metatype to that container, and in your case zope thinks you aren't allowed to do that. That causes an error. To test it, just give the non-manager user (or anonymous) permission to add a folder into your target folder and try again. As I understand what you want to do, giving appropriate writing permissions to your "people" in their folder might be the right thing to do anyway.

Hmm.. maybe. But I don't want non-managers to be able to add just any folder there, I only want them to be able to add a folder that was created by this particular script. (ie, one that has the right name, and has had its permissions properly set up) What I really should do is create a Product, but this seemed so simple to start off that I figured I would just hack it in this way.... Live & learn....

I think my memories faulted me and that Owner thing was not what solved our copy&paste problem.

It wasn't. I mentioned on the other thread that I found that my user had never had the "Owner" role set at all (been using Zope for 2 years now, so it must not be very important?) Once I set that, I was able to proxy as Owner, but the script still did not work right. I believe it is either a bug, or else the way things are supposed to work with manage_clone.

About manage_changePermissions, I think you should use this method:

def manage_permission(self, permission_to_manage, roles=[], acquire=0, REQUEST=None)

That is the one! Gets me where I was going. Thank you so much for your help today. Lee Harr _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963