It used to be that I was so open minded when it came to web technologies. I used to say "Oh yeah, pick whatever you want, we can do it in that." I used to say "No problem! We can use your scripting technology! It's just as good as any other." And I would, and they would, and we did. And we'd all stand around and say "Yeah man... that's cool." And then Zope entered my life. And NOW I simply can't think of virtually any project that Zope wouldn't do a better job of serving than those *other* technologies. It's very frustrating when every time you see a project you think "Oh, Zope would make that SO much easier!" Especially any time someone mentions the word "Database" and "Web" in close proximity. The truly frustrating part is staying focused on the problem-space when you have such a fun technology to play with. Now in some ways I'll admit, this is an exaggeration. Obviously, there ARE lots of cases when Zope isn't appropriate, but I just wanted to shout out a big thanks for developing such an awesome system that makes developing apps so easy to do. Now if I could just get my mind off of it's possibilities long enough to evaluate those OTHER technologies objectively, then I'd be in good shape. ;D -- Juall's Law on Nice Guys: Nice guys don't always finish last; sometimes they don't finish. Sometimes they don't even get a chance to start!