I've been reading about Zope Page Templates and it looks like its targeted to DreamWeaver and GoLive (as Evan said) now, how do DreamWeaver users interact with zope? supposing you are using latest dreamweaver (4.0 + 4.0.1 patches), be it either WebDAV or FTP there's no way dreamweaver will open the extension-less zope files in its editor, unless you drag-n-drop it, and in that case, dreamweaver will refuse to show the 'design' view (rendered hml). Now, how can ZPT be targetted to an IDE that won't directly interact with zope in the first place, I just don't get it. As far as I know, Adobe has received quite a lot of complains about this behaviour (ignoring the Content-Type and just guess the file type based on the its extension name), and there is still no good signs on this changing in future releases. What do you think it's the best solution to use DW4.0.1 on Zope (for editing ZPT) ? are there any patches to zope, that will append '.html' on webdav/ftp when the user agent is dreamweaver or anything else ? I've been reading some threads on the mailing list archive, but I couldn't find any solution yet.. any suggestions would be great.. thanks in advance Alex Verstraeten (aka zxc at #zope)
Hi Alex, Can you just name your page templates with extensions that DreamWeaver likes? Dumb answer, I know. But maybe it works (until Macromedia fixes their problems.) -steve On Monday, September 3, 2001, at 12:32 PM, <alex@quad.com.ar> wrote:
I've been reading about Zope Page Templates and it looks like its targeted to DreamWeaver and GoLive (as Evan said) now, how do DreamWeaver users interact with zope? supposing you are using latest dreamweaver (4.0 + 4.0.1 patches), be it either WebDAV or FTP there's no way dreamweaver will open the extension-less zope files in its editor, unless you drag-n-drop it, and in that case, dreamweaver will refuse to show the 'design' view (rendered hml). Now, how can ZPT be targetted to an IDE that won't directly interact with zope in the first place, I just don't get it. As far as I know, Adobe has received quite a lot of complains about this behaviour (ignoring the Content-Type and just guess the file type based on the its extension name), and there is still no good signs on this changing in future releases.
What do you think it's the best solution to use DW4.0.1 on Zope (for editing ZPT) ? are there any patches to zope, that will append '.html' on webdav/ftp when the user agent is dreamweaver or anything else ?
I've been reading some threads on the mailing list archive, but I couldn't find any solution yet..
any suggestions would be great..
thanks in advance Alex Verstraeten (aka zxc at #zope)
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I've been reading about Zope Page Templates and it looks like its targeted to DreamWeaver and GoLive (as Evan said) now, how do DreamWeaver users interact with zope?
It's targeted to any Web design package that won't mangle unknown attributes. Those just happen to be two of the most popular.
supposing you are using latest dreamweaver (4.0 + 4.0.1 patches), be it either WebDAV or FTP there's no way dreamweaver will open the extension-less zope files in its editor, unless you drag-n-drop it, and in that case, dreamweaver will refuse to show the 'design' view (rendered hml).
I've complained on the Macromedia newsgroup and sent a feature request to Macromedia regarding this. No other program that I have refuses to open a file that the program can read just because the extension is missing, unknown, or that of different type than the file actually is. I hope they fix this. One thing I recently discovered is that if you right-mouse on a file in the DW site window and select "open with...browse" and then find a select Dreamweaver.exe, DW will open it and allow the design view. This is a stupid workaround, of course, but it does allow editing the files in DW without having to play the rename game. I created a shortcut to Dreamweaver.exe in a convenient place to make this workaround faster, but it still stinks.
Now, how can ZPT be targetted to an IDE that won't directly interact with zope in the first place, I just don't get it.
It's a sad Macromedia limitation. It has nothing to do with Zope or ZPT. If you name your objects with extensions that DW recognizes, both WebDAV and FTP will work to access Zope, and DW will open them without question.
As far as I know, Adobe has received quite a lot of complains about this behaviour (ignoring the Content-Type and just guess the file type based on the its extension name)
Do you mean Macromedia? Or does GoLive have this same limitation?
What do you think it's the best solution to use DW4.0.1 on Zope (for editing ZPT) ?
I've started naming many of my HTML-ish objects with a .html extension for various reasons, DW ease of use being one of them, but the common ones that don't have extensions, I just use the workaround above ("open with...browse"). _______________________ Ron Bickers Logic Etc, Inc.
Alex, I just wanted to add that I use ZPT now as much as possible but I never use DreamWeaver. All editing is done handcodely now in a texteditor or in the Zope management interface. ZPT is not just for Dreamweavering. That's just a bonus you get when using ZPT. Very irrelevant, but in case you cared about how some people use ZPT. Peter
I've been reading about Zope Page Templates and it looks like its targeted to DreamWeaver and GoLive (as Evan said) now, how do DreamWeaver users interact with zope? supposing you are using latest dreamweaver (4.0 + 4.0.1 patches), be it either WebDAV or FTP there's no way dreamweaver will open the extension-less zope files in its editor, unless you drag-n-drop it, and in that case, dreamweaver will refuse to show the 'design' view (rendered hml). Now, how can ZPT be targetted to an IDE that won't directly interact with zope in the first place, I just don't get it. As far as I know, Adobe has received quite a lot of complains about this behaviour (ignoring the Content-Type and just guess the file type based on the its extension name), and there is still no good signs on this changing in future releases.
What do you think it's the best solution to use DW4.0.1 on Zope (for editing ZPT) ? are there any patches to zope, that will append '.html' on webdav/ftp when the user agent is dreamweaver or anything else ?
I've been reading some threads on the mailing list archive, but I couldn't find any solution yet..
any suggestions would be great..
thanks in advance Alex Verstraeten (aka zxc at #zope)
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Alex, I just wanted to add that I use ZPT now as much as possible but I never use DreamWeaver. All editing is done handcodely now in a texteditor or in the Zope management interface. ZPT is not just for Dreamweavering. That's just a bonus you get when using ZPT. Very irrelevant, but in case you cared about how some people use ZPT. Peter
I've been reading about Zope Page Templates and it looks like its targeted to DreamWeaver and GoLive (as Evan said) now, how do DreamWeaver users interact with zope? supposing you are using latest dreamweaver (4.0 + 4.0.1 patches), be it either WebDAV or FTP there's no way dreamweaver will open the extension-less zope files in its editor, unless you drag-n-drop it, and in that case, dreamweaver will refuse to show the 'design' view (rendered hml). Now, how can ZPT be targetted to an IDE that won't directly interact with zope in the first place, I just don't get it. As far as I know, Adobe has received quite a lot of complains about this behaviour (ignoring the Content-Type and just guess the file type based on the its extension name), and there is still no good signs on this changing in future releases.
What do you think it's the best solution to use DW4.0.1 on Zope (for editing ZPT) ? are there any patches to zope, that will append '.html' on webdav/ftp when the user agent is dreamweaver or anything else ?
I've been reading some threads on the mailing list archive, but I couldn't find any solution yet..
any suggestions would be great..
thanks in advance Alex Verstraeten (aka zxc at #zope)
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Alex, I just wanted to add that I use ZPT now as much as possible but I never use DreamWeaver. All editing is done handcodely now in a texteditor or in the Zope management interface. ZPT is not just for Dreamweavering. That's just a bonus you get when using ZPT. Very irrelevant, but in case you cared about how some people use ZPT. Peter
I've been reading about Zope Page Templates and it looks like its targeted to DreamWeaver and GoLive (as Evan said) now, how do DreamWeaver users interact with zope? supposing you are using latest dreamweaver (4.0 + 4.0.1 patches), be it either WebDAV or FTP there's no way dreamweaver will open the extension-less zope files in its editor, unless you drag-n-drop it, and in that case, dreamweaver will refuse to show the 'design' view (rendered hml). Now, how can ZPT be targetted to an IDE that won't directly interact with zope in the first place, I just don't get it. As far as I know, Adobe has received quite a lot of complains about this behaviour (ignoring the Content-Type and just guess the file type based on the its extension name), and there is still no good signs on this changing in future releases.
What do you think it's the best solution to use DW4.0.1 on Zope (for editing ZPT) ? are there any patches to zope, that will append '.html' on webdav/ftp when the user agent is dreamweaver or anything else ?
I've been reading some threads on the mailing list archive, but I couldn't find any solution yet..
any suggestions would be great..
thanks in advance Alex Verstraeten (aka zxc at #zope)
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