Check out: http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ZSyncer Haven't used it, but it looks to be the best option for a 'staging' content production model. Works via XML-RPC, and I would do this over HTTPS/SSL because of plain-text passwords, but that's because I am paranoid about plain-text passwords for management access; I'm not sure what Imeme provides in the SSL regard, but I'm guessing that they can likely answer that question for you. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Terry Hancock [mailto:hancock@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 10:29 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Uploading a Zope site I've been managing static HTML sites for a long time, although none of them have been terribly ambitious, but I'm fairly new with Zope. My usual practice (which I think is pretty common and a good idea anyway), is to work on a website stored on a local server. Then, when the time comes to commit the changes, I upload the site. I'm attempting the same type of procedure with Zope: I have a local copy which I develop on, and I periodically try to upload content to a Zope account at my ISP (Imeme). The problem I'm running into, is that I now have some dynamically-created content on the site, which I don't want to lose. As designed, a "clobber" approach (i.e. upload over the existing site, replacing any files which have the same name), would work fine (the automatically generated files have predictable names and locations). But there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this (well, you wouldn't *want* it to be too easy). My present procedure is pretty complicated -- I do an export locally, and then an import at the ISP. But I also have to export parts of the ISP version in order to incorporate them. I seem to be getting away with this now, but our site is going to become a lot more dynamic in the future. How can I make this easier? * Can I do a "clobber" type of import, like I could do with an FTP site, for example -- just replace the files I upload, but leave others intact? * Could I do a date-based export (i.e. export the objects that have changed since the previous upload, and overload that after I do my main import?) * Is there an "officially sanctioned zope method" for merging content from the local site into the new site? * Can I do something like this with ZEO? I know it's set up to do it automatically, but I want to do it only on demand, when I'm ready to commit my changes. * Can I write something in Zope/python to make it easier? (Well, obviously the answer is 'yes', but I'm looking for hints here :) ). * Could I somehow do this with CVS? I get the impression that Zope's change-control system is supposed to replace CVS, not work with it, but I'm very new at this. * I just saw something in the documentation about "sessions" which seems similar in concept, but I don't know if it's appropriate. I can't just use the FTP interface, because that wouldn't preserve object properties, without which my site would just fall apart. Please CC, as I receive this list in digest only. Thanks! -- ------------------------------------------------------ Terry Hancock hancock@anansispaceworks.com Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com P.O. Box 60583 Pasadena, CA 91116-6583 ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
There have been many patches including one for SSL transfer I have yet to integrate. Cheers. -- Andy McKay. ----- Original Message ----- From: <sean.upton@uniontrib.com> To: <hancock@earthlink.net>; <zope@zope.org> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:02 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Uploading a Zope site
Check out:
http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ZSyncer
Haven't used it, but it looks to be the best option for a 'staging' content production model. Works via XML-RPC, and I would do this over HTTPS/SSL because of plain-text passwords, but that's because I am paranoid about plain-text passwords for management access; I'm not sure what Imeme provides in the SSL regard, but I'm guessing that they can likely answer that question for you.
Sean
-----Original Message----- From: Terry Hancock [mailto:hancock@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 10:29 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Uploading a Zope site
I've been managing static HTML sites for a long time, although none of them have been terribly ambitious, but I'm fairly new with Zope.
My usual practice (which I think is pretty common and a good idea anyway), is to work on a website stored on a local server. Then, when the time comes to commit the changes, I upload the site.
I'm attempting the same type of procedure with Zope: I have a local copy which I develop on, and I periodically try to upload content to a Zope account at my ISP (Imeme).
The problem I'm running into, is that I now have some dynamically-created content on the site, which I don't want to lose. As designed, a "clobber" approach (i.e. upload over the existing site, replacing any files which have the same name), would work fine (the automatically generated files have predictable names and locations). But there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this (well, you wouldn't *want* it to be too easy).
My present procedure is pretty complicated -- I do an export locally, and then an import at the ISP. But I also have to export parts of the ISP version in order to incorporate them.
I seem to be getting away with this now, but our site is going to become a lot more dynamic in the future.
How can I make this easier?
* Can I do a "clobber" type of import, like I could do with an FTP site, for example -- just replace the files I upload, but leave others intact?
* Could I do a date-based export (i.e. export the objects that have changed since the previous upload, and overload that after I do my main import?)
* Is there an "officially sanctioned zope method" for merging content from the local site into the new site?
* Can I do something like this with ZEO? I know it's set up to do it automatically, but I want to do it only on demand, when I'm ready to commit my changes.
* Can I write something in Zope/python to make it easier? (Well, obviously the answer is 'yes', but I'm looking for hints here :) ).
* Could I somehow do this with CVS? I get the impression that Zope's change-control system is supposed to replace CVS, not work with it, but I'm very new at this.
* I just saw something in the documentation about "sessions" which seems similar in concept, but I don't know if it's appropriate.
I can't just use the FTP interface, because that wouldn't preserve object properties, without which my site would just fall apart.
Please CC, as I receive this list in digest only.
Thanks!
-- ------------------------------------------------------ Terry Hancock hancock@anansispaceworks.com Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com P.O. Box 60583 Pasadena, CA 91116-6583 ------------------------------------------------------
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sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
Check out:
http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ZSyncer
Haven't used it, but it looks to be the best option for a 'staging' content production model.
Thank you very much for the tip! It sure does look like what I'm after from the website. I've downloaded a copy, and I'm going to try it out. So, if you don't hear from me about it on the list, it must be working. ;) This does sort of raise the question: if other people aren't using a "staging production model", what sort of model *are* they using? I'm open to new ideas, I'm just using what I know. Cheers, Terry -- ------------------------------------------------------ Terry Hancock hancock@anansispaceworks.com Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com P.O. Box 60583 Pasadena, CA 91116-6583 ------------------------------------------------------
This does sort of raise the question: if other people aren't using a "staging production model", what sort of model *are* they using? I'm open to new ideas, I'm just using what I know.
I think that they use Versions. They work directly on the production server, but in a Version. Their changes are not visible to normal users. When they are sure everything's OK, they commit the Version. It is an excellent solution if you have permanent connection to the Internet. -- Milos Prudek
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