Re : Zope on solaris for the beginner.
Hello Jesse, Maybe this is your first problem on Solaris...... But it won't be the last : 3 months ago, like U, i choose Zope for building few Intranet/Extranet sites on Solaris.... .... but Python's multithreading implementation doesn't work on Solaris. Zope seems to work in a mono-threading mode on Solaris : the problem is still present on Python 2.1.2, maybe it's solved on Python 2.2 (but i'm not sure). But Zope doesn't work with Python 2.2.... .... so we had to install our sites on NT Servers in order to work with Zope (we don't have others Unix systems for production sites in our compagny)...... :-( Zope on Solaris is still a bad choise and i wonder why doesn't it mentionned on Zope.org, i wonder..... ???????? Fred. Excuse my English...
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:09:58 -0500 From: "jesse wright" <jesse.wright@cameraplanet.com> Subject: Zope on solaris for the beginner.
This is very humble-ing. Hopefully someone is a salvation waiting to happen.
I'm new to Zope and could really use a little help installing. I'm on a Solaris Box.
I've Downloaded Zope-2.5.0-solaris-2.6-sparc ./install -u root
all looks good
Next I try to ./start -u root All goes well until the install seems to get hung up on Unix socket: /path to Zope-2.5.0/var/pcgi
When I try to ./start (with no other options)
I get: File /path to Zope/zy.py, line 688, in? IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/path to Zope/var/Z2.pid'
I imagine this time the error comes from not starting as root. That and the fact that this file does not seem t be in the "var" folder.
basically i can't bet to mymachine.com:8080/manage So I haven't got this up and running yet.
I would greatly appreciate any Advice on this.
Thank you in Advance, jESSE
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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:57:51AM +0100, Fr▌d▌ric Lemaitre wrote:
.... but Python's multithreading implementation doesn't work on Solaris.
Why? Even Python 1.5.2 with multithreading works for me on Solaris 2.5.1. Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd@phd.pp.ru Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.
I don't really know on which exactly versions of Solaris the problem occurs. But it's a related problem which has no solution yet (see the mailing-list archive) And the Anthony Baxter' fix an Python 2.1.2 doesn't work on my SunOS 5.7.... Reférences : http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2001-December/104883.html http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/zope-List/825770 http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Python-checkins/956461 Fred. phd@phd.pp.ru a écrit:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:57:51AM +0100, Frdric Lemaitre wrote:
.... but Python's multithreading implementation doesn't work on Solaris.
Why? Even Python 1.5.2 with multithreading works for me on Solaris 2.5.1.
Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd@phd.pp.ru Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.
Why? Even Python 1.5.2 with multithreading works for me on Solaris 2.5.1.
Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd@phd.pp.ru
There are strange, core-dumping problems and threadrealted issues with pythons post 1.5.2 afaik, both performace wise and otherwise. Check the archives of zope and zope-dev. I myself generated a lot of the messages. And, recently (this or last week) there have been more reports of Solaris related problems... It seems that Zope is more susceptible to these problems than other python software. I don't really know why but I suspect that Zope is one of there larger python apps out there and thus suffers more than other apps from shortcomings. I haven't heard of realted problems from the Twisted copmmunity, but then I suspect that not too many of them use solaris on a daily basis (this is only an assumption mind you, I might very well be wrong). /dario - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Kasten Systems Developer Chalmers Univ. of Technology dario@ita.chalmers.se ICQ will yield no hits IT Systems & Services
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 19:22, Dario Lopez-Kasten wrote:
Why? Even Python 1.5.2 with multithreading works for me on Solaris 2.5.1.
Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd@phd.pp.ru
There are strange, core-dumping problems and threadrealted issues with pythons post 1.5.2 afaik, both performace wise and otherwise.
Check the archives of zope and zope-dev. I myself generated a lot of the messages. And, recently (this or last week) there have been more reports of Solaris related problems...
It seems that Zope is more susceptible to these problems than other python software. I don't really know why but I suspect that Zope is one of there larger python apps out there and thus suffers more than other apps from shortcomings.
I haven't heard of realted problems from the Twisted copmmunity, but then I suspect that not too many of them use solaris on a daily basis (this is only an assumption mind you, I might very well be wrong).
The main problem I had was about asyncore getting signals from exiting childs of os.popen, as solaris delivered these to the first waiting thread and not the thread that had spawned the child. It had a simple 2 or 3 line fix. I also have some problems with database (oracle) transactions never committing/aborting but I have these on linux/postgresql as well, so this is not solaris specific. ---------------- Hannu
Hi, I have developed a browser-based application in zope. The installation process including the zope binary installation on Win32, which will suspend on a dialog box waiting for setting superuser account. It's good for developer. But it scares the end users since they are not familiar with zope and always asking me for password. In fact the superuser user account will be replaced with a default "access" file later after the zope installation process finished. So the prompt for setting superuser is not necessary in my case. Can I feed in some parameter for skipping that step ? Thanks in advance. Iap, Singuan
I don't think there's any command-line switches that can prevent that in the "prerolled" binary, sorry. You'd need to roll your own. ----- Original Message ----- From: <iap@y2fun.com> Cc: <zope@zope.org> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:07 AM Subject: [Zope] Can I skip the superuser account dialog box during the installation on Win32?
Hi, I have developed a browser-based application in zope. The installation process including the zope binary installation on Win32, which will suspend on a dialog box waiting for setting superuser account. It's good for developer. But it scares the end users since they are not familiar with zope and always asking me for password. In fact the superuser user account will be replaced with a default "access" file later after the zope installation process finished. So the prompt for setting superuser is not necessary in my case.
Can I feed in some parameter for skipping that step ?
Thanks in advance.
Iap, Singuan
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