eGroups times out every other time I use it --I search, server times out. I search again, it works. I dont know of a better way, but i tend to spend lots of time in the archives looking for answers and it is painful :( anyone search for something get results, type another phrase in and get, "We were unable to find any results for your query. Reason: No group specified." which makes me go back to Zope search form on zope.org each time to make a search how about NNTP? not linked to usenet. something where client side tools are more useful (NT by day, linux by night) to browse topics/threads more efficiently. ideally it would look really swank to have all messages catalogued and served by Zope. ~alan