All, I have been trying to build a method around the manage_renameObjects so that I don't have to expose the users of my application to zmi. Here is my method rename2: <dtml-call "manage_renameObjects(ids=[oldlid], new_ids=[newid])"> <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect('deleteForm2')"> and here is the form that calls it deleteform2: <form action="<!--#var URL0-->" method="POST" enctype="multipart/form-data"> <dtml-in "objectValues(['File'])"> <input class="form-element" type="text" name="<dtml-var id>" size="40" value=" <dtml-var id> "><br> </dtml-in> <input type=hidden name="ids:tokens:default"> <input class="form-element" type="submit" name="rename2:method" value=" Save Changes "/> </form> When I submit the form I get the following: Error Type: NameError Error Value: global name 'oldlid' is not defined How do I define the global name oldid and newid? Am I dooing this right in the first place? Any pointers, examples or urls to docs are welcome. Thanks, Rob