To clarify, W2k is probably pretty reliable now for the desktop, but the servers have a way to go. In addition to reliability issues, the resources required to do the same functions on the 2000 products (w2k, office 2K, access 2K) are much higher than the 97 and 4.0 versions. MS can't even keep their own sites going: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2677896,00.html?chkpt=zdhpnews 01 Now I don't bash MS for a living, just as a hobby. They've been sliding steadily downhill since the 4.0 release. I provide computer services on MS and Novell networks for a living. I would not consider putting W2K servers into production until they are stabilized and still would not do so unless my client are planning a hardware upgrade as part of the process. We've seen too many black screens of death with W2K servers. The clients do appear more stable, but why sacrifice performance in a business environment when you gain nothing? I've used 4.0 without a crash for years. Why switch? It's faster and does everything I need. It will be interesting to see the Unix command-line loving community's reaction when MS releases their text mode server product. This will certainly interest the mouse-phobic. If I want USB for multimedia solutions, I'll probably do it under BeOS. Then again, I'll probably use firewire. (which should've been in windows instead of USB from the start. Alan

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-----Original Message----- From: Michelle Walden [mailto:mwalden@arlut.utexas.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:10 PM To: Capesius, Alan; zope Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee

You could now recommend W2k as a much more stable *than either 95 or NT4* alternative that does USB support out of the box.

-----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Capesius, Alan Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:39 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Re: Some help required but no sarcastic comments this time pleas ee

I understand people do use Win9x, but I would always recommend NT 4 workstation over 9x unless there is an overpowering need for USB.

I don't use USB myself and have been using NT exclusively on the desktop since 94. When properly configured it is much more stable. Nowadays, NT5 (oops 2000) is a better choice for USB support and about as stable as 9x.

But, that aside, I'm interested in your desktop uses for Zope. What sort of apps?

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From: Toby Dickenson <mbel44@dial.pipex.net> There are those of us who use Zope in desktop applications too (yes really), where Win9x is not an unreasonable choice. Toby Dickenson

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